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> I’m just surprised that people continue to use old bikes when the newer technology around them has continued to improve. Newer technology is not necessarily

> I’m just surprised that people continue to use old bikes when the newer technology around them has continued to improve. Newer technology is not necessarily always better. A lot of the e-bike utility derives from having a working motor and battery. Those two are probably the most expensive fragile items in a bike. Good luck dealing with the fire when your battery explodes. Good luck getting home when your battery goes flat and you have to ride a heavier bike home and you are in the middle of nowhere because with a working battery you can. Oh, yes let's a buy a backup battery and increase your bike costs. Good luck getting a new battery when your bike supplier dies.

seadan83 2y ago
> Good luck dealing with the fire when your battery explodes. Any data available for how often that happens? I have never heard of a single instance, nor it even being a risk even. > Good luck getting home when your battery goes flat and you have to ride a heavier bike home and you are in the middle of nowhere because with a working battery you can. Indeed the 'stranded with a heavy bike' was a problem. Less so now that e-bike ranges are 60+ miles. > Oh, yes let's a buy a backup battery and increase your bike costs I don't think this makes sense. Have you heard of this as common? Do you know any manufacturers who recommend this? The shelf life of batteries is years and years. A replacement would be idle.. > Good luck getting a new battery when your bike supplier dies. Bikes are relatively simple. Happily the wiring can be redone if need-be to retrofit to something new
dylan604 2y ago
> having a working motor and battery. Those two are probably the most expensive fragile items in a bike. As an example, a replacement battery pack for the e-bike model I bought is 25% of the price of the bike. I'd assume the motor and other electronics would ring up to another 25%. Since I bought a cargo e-bike, there's really no meat motor bike to compare the remaining price to see how it aligns.
relyks 2y ago
I was actually referring to regular bikes not e-bikes in my last point, your quote, but I agree with everything you said. There are definitely disadvantages to e-bikes

seadan83 2y ago

> Good luck dealing with the fire when your battery explodes. Any data available for how often that happens? I have never heard of a single instance, nor it even being a risk even. > Good luck getting home when your battery goes flat and you have to ride a heavier bike home and you are in the middle of nowhere because with a working battery you can. Indeed the 'stranded with a heavy bike' was a problem. Less so now that e-bike ranges are 60+ miles. > Oh, yes let's a buy a backup battery and increase your bike costs I don't think this makes sense. Have you heard of this as common? Do you know any manufacturers who recommend this? The shelf life of batteries is years and years. A replacement would be idle.. > Good luck getting a new battery when your bike supplier dies. Bikes are relatively simple. Happily the wiring can be redone if need-be to retrofit to something new

dylan604 2y ago

> having a working motor and battery. Those two are probably the most expensive fragile items in a bike. As an example, a replacement battery pack for the e-bike model I bought is 25% of the price of the bike. I'd assume the motor and other electronics would ring up to another 25%. Since I bought a cargo e-bike, there's really no meat motor bike to compare the remaining price to see how it aligns.

relyks 2y ago

I was actually referring to regular bikes not e-bikes in my last point, your quote, but I agree with everything you said. There are definitely disadvantages to e-bikes