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Legally speaking, you may be sued for damages. Socially speaking, you’re never working in the industry again, possibly never be in full employment ever again.

Legally speaking, you may be sued for damages. Socially speaking, you’re never working in the industry again, possibly never be in full employment ever again. Things are better now but shit like this was rampant even back in the late 2000s early 2010s.

lucianbr 2y ago
Can't you just avoid the suit notice, the same way they avoid the resignation notice? I mean, I'm sure you're right. I just want to highlight that it's actually oppressive bullshit perpetrated by the rich, not "a funny quirk of a foreign culture". Of course when you try to avoid the notice, it won't work.
- poincaredisk 2y ago
  Do you think just not showing up to work one day is OK? A honest question, it's interesting to me from a cultural point of view. I agreed to my current contract, and a part of that contact is "if I want to quit I either give a months notice, or agree to a shorter notice together with my company". This just sounds like an adult thing to do to honor that agreement. (I live in Europe btw). Of course we both agree that company straight up refusing to let you go is oppressive and scummy.
  - cassianoleal 2y ago
    > agreed to my current contract, and a part of that contact is "if I want to quit I either give a months notice This is fine. What's not fine is not being able to determine when that notice period starts, or if it's allowed to start at all. This is the context of this thread. Having a legal avenue for an employer to never allow an employee to quit is incredibly dystopian. Some might say analogous to slavery.
  - MrHamburger 2y ago
    If your boss is being smartass by keeping you in job through a loophole (refusing notices), then there is no reason for you to keep being decent and play by expected rules either.
poincaredisk 2y ago
This is not unique to Japan btw, in most countries I know of you can't just stop showing up to work (just like employer can't just fire you). Yes, you will be fired, but you may also face legal consequences. It's also not socially acceptable.
- 93po 2y ago
  hell even in the US, every single white collar job i've had required references, which is basically sort of a "quit your job on good terms or else you're gonna struggle more for the next one". the unfortunate reality is that i've worked for several bosses that turned out to not be very nice people and had a relationship with me where they acted like they hated me and was worthless but also upset when i tried to leave, which is at odds of their opinion of me not being that valuable? capitalism is tiresome

lucianbr 2y ago

Can't you just avoid the suit notice, the same way they avoid the resignation notice? I mean, I'm sure you're right. I just want to highlight that it's actually oppressive bullshit perpetrated by the rich, not "a funny quirk of a foreign culture". Of course when you try to avoid the notice, it won't work.

poincaredisk 2y ago
Do you think just not showing up to work one day is OK? A honest question, it's interesting to me from a cultural point of view. I agreed to my current contract, and a part of that contact is "if I want to quit I either give a months notice, or agree to a shorter notice together with my company". This just sounds like an adult thing to do to honor that agreement. (I live in Europe btw). Of course we both agree that company straight up refusing to let you go is oppressive and scummy.
- cassianoleal 2y ago
  > agreed to my current contract, and a part of that contact is "if I want to quit I either give a months notice This is fine. What's not fine is not being able to determine when that notice period starts, or if it's allowed to start at all. This is the context of this thread. Having a legal avenue for an employer to never allow an employee to quit is incredibly dystopian. Some might say analogous to slavery.
- MrHamburger 2y ago
  If your boss is being smartass by keeping you in job through a loophole (refusing notices), then there is no reason for you to keep being decent and play by expected rules either.

poincaredisk 2y ago

This is not unique to Japan btw, in most countries I know of you can't just stop showing up to work (just like employer can't just fire you). Yes, you will be fired, but you may also face legal consequences. It's also not socially acceptable.

93po 2y ago
hell even in the US, every single white collar job i've had required references, which is basically sort of a "quit your job on good terms or else you're gonna struggle more for the next one". the unfortunate reality is that i've worked for several bosses that turned out to not be very nice people and had a relationship with me where they acted like they hated me and was worthless but also upset when i tried to leave, which is at odds of their opinion of me not being that valuable? capitalism is tiresome