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Just go to Google News and search of Japanese turning to resignation agencies. All it takes is one news org doing a small story a month ago and now we get hund

by cen4 2y ago

Just go to Google News and search of Japanese turning to resignation agencies. All it takes is one news org doing a small story a month ago and now we get hundreds of stories from news orgs around the world with all kinds of opinions and mutations to the original story. Its like watching bacteria reproduce. Soon we will see antibiotic resistance.

bwb 2y ago
People are curious beings :), I find a culture that requires these agencies and love learning more.
- lazide 2y ago
  It isn’t clear that the culture does actually require these agencies (at least in a common case). It is clear that people love reading/writing articles about it though.
  - killingtime74 2y ago
    Need is not a matter of my or your opinion. The fact that they exist shows that they are required. Have you heard of similar agencies in other countries?
    - mdiesel 2y ago
      The fact they exist only shows that someone makes money or benefits from them existing. Customer need is only one way that manifests nowadays
implements 2y ago
YouTube pushed a video about it to me a few days ago - I guess it’s an algorithm driven story.
- andai 2y ago
  The one with the red haired woman? I was just telling my friend about that one the other day.
  - Philpax 2y ago
    For reference, https://youtube.com/shorts/BH5eC5aqtEI?si=X-5Rb_j3NNG2Nsnx https://youtube.com/shorts/BH5eC5aqtEI?si=X-5Rb_j3NNG2Nsnx
    - mysterydip 2y ago
      why do her videos have 18M+ views? Is there something special about her "day in the life of" vs everyone else's? Or did the algorithm just decide to highlight her?
      - Philpax 2y ago
        I think they're just short, punchy, and about an interesting subject matter (being a schoolteacher in Japan). The algorithm just fed the cycle once it got going.
- autoexec 2y ago
  Not surprised the story is being spread around. I'm sure that a lot of corporations would be happy to amplify a story that will make workers in other countries feel better about not being treated as badly as Japanese workers are by their employers, but I hope it just gets people thinking about how given the chance employers will abuse us to whatever extent we allow them to. Maybe it'll get people thinking about what can be done to improve things where they are or at least make sure things never get as bad.
m463 2y ago
Maybe the japanese ftc-equivalent should require one-click resignation. (see, now the ftc subscription story is breeding with the resignation story)
- nasmorn 2y ago
  In Austria you can eg end your Apartment lease via a specific court form that removes all ambiguity to wether they have received this in time or whatever. It cannot be refused since it is not filed with the landlord directly but served to him by court. Since Austria requires you to specify a known address to the government it is basically your problem then if you are not present. It is mostly used if your rental agreement contains language in conflict with the law about when you can end the lease. It basically reverses the roles since they cannot refuse the cancellation only appeal it and companies will obviously not do that based on leases that contradict law. You pay 100 EUR so you don’t have to communicate any more about it with the landlord which can be quite the good deal
hacsky 2y ago
"Media Magnification" - There's a word for it :)
jahnu 2y ago
Churnalism. More than a decade ago I saw a story about what happened to a "Swiss National" who was jailed in the UAE for three poppy seeds on their shirt. It was quite a disturbing story and was reported around the time some more high profile cases of people being arrested in UAE for what would be normal things in western countries. I saw the same story with the same language appear in dozens of news sites I read and then got suspicious that the wording was near identical and the individual never named. search for "swiss national jailed UAE poppy seeds" and you can still see some of the articles Anyway, I contacted the NGO (who it seems does good work, btw!) and asked who this person was and what happened to them. I got a response that during an interview about a more prominent case they told one journalist that it was just a rumour they heard and the story snowballed from there. Nobody contacted them to get more details. The point I took is not that anyone is malicious or has some sinister agenda but that budgets in newsrooms had been so cut to the bone and "content" needed to be produced as fast as possible to get the clicks, to churn out those stores, and get that ad revenue that nobody had time to do basic fact checking. They were incentivised by the system not to.
paxys 2y ago
Congrats, you figured out how all internet journalism works.
sprkwd 2y ago
Sounds viral.
throwawayk7h 2y ago
Is this a problem? Every time another one comes out, more people learn about this interesting thing for the first time.
huijzer 2y ago
“If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed.” Mark Twain
- tleish 2y ago
  While it’s a good statement, there's no evidence Mark Twain made it. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mark-twain-read-newspaper-misinformed/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mark-twain-read-newspaper-...

by cen4 2y ago

bwb 2y ago

People are curious beings :), I find a culture that requires these agencies and love learning more.

lazide 2y ago
It isn’t clear that the culture does actually require these agencies (at least in a common case). It is clear that people love reading/writing articles about it though.
- killingtime74 2y ago
  Need is not a matter of my or your opinion. The fact that they exist shows that they are required. Have you heard of similar agencies in other countries?
  - mdiesel 2y ago
    The fact they exist only shows that someone makes money or benefits from them existing. Customer need is only one way that manifests nowadays

implements 2y ago

YouTube pushed a video about it to me a few days ago - I guess it’s an algorithm driven story.

andai 2y ago
The one with the red haired woman? I was just telling my friend about that one the other day.
- Philpax 2y ago
  For reference, https://youtube.com/shorts/BH5eC5aqtEI?si=X-5Rb_j3NNG2Nsnx https://youtube.com/shorts/BH5eC5aqtEI?si=X-5Rb_j3NNG2Nsnx
  - mysterydip 2y ago
    why do her videos have 18M+ views? Is there something special about her "day in the life of" vs everyone else's? Or did the algorithm just decide to highlight her?
    - Philpax 2y ago
      I think they're just short, punchy, and about an interesting subject matter (being a schoolteacher in Japan). The algorithm just fed the cycle once it got going.
autoexec 2y ago
Not surprised the story is being spread around. I'm sure that a lot of corporations would be happy to amplify a story that will make workers in other countries feel better about not being treated as badly as Japanese workers are by their employers, but I hope it just gets people thinking about how given the chance employers will abuse us to whatever extent we allow them to. Maybe it'll get people thinking about what can be done to improve things where they are or at least make sure things never get as bad.

m463 2y ago

Maybe the japanese ftc-equivalent should require one-click resignation. (see, now the ftc subscription story is breeding with the resignation story)

nasmorn 2y ago
In Austria you can eg end your Apartment lease via a specific court form that removes all ambiguity to wether they have received this in time or whatever. It cannot be refused since it is not filed with the landlord directly but served to him by court. Since Austria requires you to specify a known address to the government it is basically your problem then if you are not present. It is mostly used if your rental agreement contains language in conflict with the law about when you can end the lease. It basically reverses the roles since they cannot refuse the cancellation only appeal it and companies will obviously not do that based on leases that contradict law. You pay 100 EUR so you don’t have to communicate any more about it with the landlord which can be quite the good deal

hacsky 2y ago

"Media Magnification" - There's a word for it :)

jahnu 2y ago

Churnalism. More than a decade ago I saw a story about what happened to a "Swiss National" who was jailed in the UAE for three poppy seeds on their shirt. It was quite a disturbing story and was reported around the time some more high profile cases of people being arrested in UAE for what would be normal things in western countries. I saw the same story with the same language appear in dozens of news sites I read and then got suspicious that the wording was near identical and the individual never named. search for "swiss national jailed UAE poppy seeds" and you can still see some of the articles Anyway, I contacted the NGO (who it seems does good work, btw!) and asked who this person was and what happened to them. I got a response that during an interview about a more prominent case they told one journalist that it was just a rumour they heard and the story snowballed from there. Nobody contacted them to get more details. The point I took is not that anyone is malicious or has some sinister agenda but that budgets in newsrooms had been so cut to the bone and "content" needed to be produced as fast as possible to get the clicks, to churn out those stores, and get that ad revenue that nobody had time to do basic fact checking. They were incentivised by the system not to.

paxys 2y ago

Congrats, you figured out how all internet journalism works.

sprkwd 2y ago

Sounds viral.

throwawayk7h 2y ago

Is this a problem? Every time another one comes out, more people learn about this interesting thing for the first time.

huijzer 2y ago

“If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed.” Mark Twain

tleish 2y ago
While it’s a good statement, there's no evidence Mark Twain made it. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mark-twain-read-newspaper-misinformed/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mark-twain-read-newspaper-...