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So if I understand this right, this is a physical thing you stand in front of to prove that you are a unique human before making some transaction with another p

So if I understand this right, this is a physical thing you stand in front of to prove that you are a unique human before making some transaction with another possibly unique human...

throwway120385 2y ago
Well, kind of. It's also a physical thing that you stand in front of to give up a bunch of biometric information to go in some database somewhere for...some reason that is unspecified. The fact that they're doing it "for free" suggests to me that there is some purpose to it that makes it profitable in spite of the costs. Given how much everyone's data is actually worth, I suspect that the reason it's free is because the biometric data has a bunch of intrinsic value such that it's worth building a bunch of hardware and giving away monopoly money.
- AyyEye 2y ago
  > some reason that is unspecified. Their end goal is for you to need this to use the internet. > something like World ID will eventually exist, meaning that you will need to verify [that you are human] on the internet, whether you like it or not. I think that's certainly going to happen with the progress in AI. https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2023/07/10/an-orb-a-token-and-money-for-everyone-worldcoins-ceo-on-cryptos-most-daring-project/ https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2023/07/10/an-or...
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  - stogot 2y ago
    Wow, “whether you like it or not” directly contradicts the “for the good of humanity” of their proposal. That’s what autocrats say
  - JohnFen 2y ago
    If that goal is actually achieved, then the internet instantly becomes a tool I can no longer use.
    - throwway120385 2y ago
      If that ever happens, nothing of value is lost. Does anyone else find it creepy that they want to control who can access the internet? You know, the thing you use to pay bills, do banking, look for jobs, and communicate with people? Being able to lock people out is definitely something they could monetize by charging fines or fees for continued access.
- tim333 2y ago
  >bunch of biometric information to go in some database somewhere for...some reason that is unspecified They just take a pic of your eyes to prevent you getting multiple accounts.
Centigonal 2y ago
You stand in front of the Orb. The Orb scans your biometric data and stores it in Sam's Database (Sam says he doesn't own the database, something something blockchain good of humanity - but Sam doesn't "own" OpenAI either). Once the Orb gathers enough people's biometrics, the Orb will become the gatekeeper for transactions. The Orb will verify your identity and humanity. Sam's Database will be more precise than your social security number, more secure than your bank login, internationally transcendent, and secured by the rigid and infallible laws of cryptocurrency. The history of crypto has shown us that ownership of tokens is a good and safe way to verify people's identities and uniqueness, and that fraud is basically impossible with these systems. National governments will use Sam's Database to assign Universal Basic Income as AGI decimates the need for labor, shortly before they collapse and give way to the AI world government. Sam's database will contain the unique identifiers of every human, giving our benevolent AI overlord a head start on getting to know us all and making our lives richer and more wonderful than we could possibly dream, by [unspecified]. Prostrate yourself before the Orb. Give it your most ineffable data. Invest your money in Sam's database. He is a responsible steward.
- sgdfhijfgsdfgds 2y ago
  I often wonder if Peter Thiel is somewhere, laughing bitterly into a glass of terrible overpriced gin that only a billionaire would drink: "this fuckin' guy... this is my schtick"
  - anonymousab 2y ago
    I assume there's some element of being very angry that "it's not me" but an even larger element of "but at least it's one of us rich elite ruling class techbros and not the proles".
- sebastiennight 2y ago
  > National governments will use Sam's Database to assign Universal Basic Income Didn't the big UBI study come to the conclusion that UBI didn't work (meaning, folks in the control group without UBI were better off at the end of the study than those who received it)? Honest question ; I'm fuzzy on the details.

So if I understand this right, this is a physical thing you stand in front of to prove that you are a unique human before making some transaction with another possibly unique human...

throwway120385 2y ago

Well, kind of. It's also a physical thing that you stand in front of to give up a bunch of biometric information to go in some database somewhere for...some reason that is unspecified. The fact that they're doing it "for free" suggests to me that there is some purpose to it that makes it profitable in spite of the costs. Given how much everyone's data is actually worth, I suspect that the reason it's free is because the biometric data has a bunch of intrinsic value such that it's worth building a bunch of hardware and giving away monopoly money.

AyyEye 2y ago
> some reason that is unspecified. Their end goal is for you to need this to use the internet. > something like World ID will eventually exist, meaning that you will need to verify [that you are human] on the internet, whether you like it or not. I think that's certainly going to happen with the progress in AI. https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2023/07/10/an-orb-a-token-and-money-for-everyone-worldcoins-ceo-on-cryptos-most-daring-project/ https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2023/07/10/an-or...
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- stogot 2y ago
  Wow, “whether you like it or not” directly contradicts the “for the good of humanity” of their proposal. That’s what autocrats say
- JohnFen 2y ago
  If that goal is actually achieved, then the internet instantly becomes a tool I can no longer use.
  - throwway120385 2y ago
    If that ever happens, nothing of value is lost. Does anyone else find it creepy that they want to control who can access the internet? You know, the thing you use to pay bills, do banking, look for jobs, and communicate with people? Being able to lock people out is definitely something they could monetize by charging fines or fees for continued access.
tim333 2y ago
>bunch of biometric information to go in some database somewhere for...some reason that is unspecified They just take a pic of your eyes to prevent you getting multiple accounts.

Centigonal 2y ago

You stand in front of the Orb. The Orb scans your biometric data and stores it in Sam's Database (Sam says he doesn't own the database, something something blockchain good of humanity - but Sam doesn't "own" OpenAI either). Once the Orb gathers enough people's biometrics, the Orb will become the gatekeeper for transactions. The Orb will verify your identity and humanity. Sam's Database will be more precise than your social security number, more secure than your bank login, internationally transcendent, and secured by the rigid and infallible laws of cryptocurrency. The history of crypto has shown us that ownership of tokens is a good and safe way to verify people's identities and uniqueness, and that fraud is basically impossible with these systems. National governments will use Sam's Database to assign Universal Basic Income as AGI decimates the need for labor, shortly before they collapse and give way to the AI world government. Sam's database will contain the unique identifiers of every human, giving our benevolent AI overlord a head start on getting to know us all and making our lives richer and more wonderful than we could possibly dream, by [unspecified]. Prostrate yourself before the Orb. Give it your most ineffable data. Invest your money in Sam's database. He is a responsible steward.

sgdfhijfgsdfgds 2y ago
I often wonder if Peter Thiel is somewhere, laughing bitterly into a glass of terrible overpriced gin that only a billionaire would drink: "this fuckin' guy... this is my schtick"
- anonymousab 2y ago
  I assume there's some element of being very angry that "it's not me" but an even larger element of "but at least it's one of us rich elite ruling class techbros and not the proles".
sebastiennight 2y ago
> National governments will use Sam's Database to assign Universal Basic Income Didn't the big UBI study come to the conclusion that UBI didn't work (meaning, folks in the control group without UBI were better off at the end of the study than those who received it)? Honest question ; I'm fuzzy on the details.