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Cuba could be the most prosperous island in the Caribbean, they have a railroad, miles and miles of beautiful beaches, farm land, etc and yet can't make communi
by ChumpGPT 2y ago
Cuba could be the most prosperous island in the Caribbean, they have a railroad, miles and miles of beautiful beaches, farm land, etc and yet can't make communism work. I friend returned from a short trip and said even the finest resorts have no bread amongst other things. The population is malnourished and live in squalor. Castro's Dream....
My grandfather use to say "80 years of communism and we are still lining up for bread to eat and soap to wash with". Can you believe there are those who still embrace it, think they can do it better and it will be a utopia.
- voidwtf 2y agoIs the problem the tenets of communism? or is the problem the dictators and strongmen who inevitably rise to the top? or the corruption that grows from unchecked power?
- kyleee 2y agoHard to say, but a good governance system must guard against the inevitable abuses of all in power (really at all levels)
- worstspotgain 2y agoIt's primarily the lack of incentives, e.g. China in 1990 compared to 2010. Communism's "time in the sun" was not really about its ideological merits. It was just something fed to the intellectuals to get them to buy into the Russian/Soviet planetary takeover. It made people believe they were fighting for a cause rather than someone else's petty interest.
- blackhawkC17 2y agoCommunism requires a strongman to enforce top-down. Most people would reject communism if they had the freedom, so the freedom is one of the first things to go under communist rule.
- proc0 2y agoAll of the above, and they're linked together. Communism requires centralization of decision making, which creates huge bottlenecks, stunts growth, and also becomes a single point of failure that a corrupt leader can easily takeover. The only reason communism keeps re-emerging is because it takes advantage of people's empathy, promising that it can directly address the needs of the many.
- jrflowers 2y agoI’ve always wondered —- if communism is so inherently flawed that it will by definition go away on its own, why bother punishing or fighting it? The US embargo on Cuba seems kind of silly if communism would evaporate on its own
- proc0 2y agoI literally stated the opposite of that.. it keeps re-emerging because it takes advantage of feelings. People want to fix the problems of the world, communism offers solutions that don't work but sound nice.
- jrflowers 2y agoI see, I misunderstood you. You were saying that there is no issue inherent to the tenets of communism that would make it fail
- graeme 2y agoYou're referring to the govt failing to maintain itself in power, whereas OP is referring to a govt failing as a functional system for the improvement of society.
- yongjik 2y agoI'm no fan of communism but that's a reductive take. China of today is communist in name only, but it's still very centrally managed, and that didn't stop China from becoming a global economic superpower. One could say something similar for Japan of the early 20th century, or, to a lesser extent, South Korea in the 60s when the economy was very much centrally planned under a dictator.
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- throwaway199956 2y agoMay be you should visit Haiti and see which is better.
- ecocentrik 2y agoHaiti has many, many other problems including being severely deforested.