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There's so many demos where Elon has faked and lied its very surprising to have him read as "basically trustworthy" even if he has done other stuff - have danci

by hobs 2y ago

There's so many demos where Elon has faked and lied its very surprising to have him read as "basically trustworthy" even if he has done other stuff - have dancing people as robots with fake robot demos, the fake solar roof, fake full self driving, really fake promises about cyber taxis and teslas paying for themselves (like 7 years ago?). The free speech part also reads completely hollow when the guy's first actions were to ban his critics on the platform and bring back self avowed nazis - you could argue one of those things are in favor of free speech, but generally doing both just implies you are into the nazi stuff.

cynicalpeace 2y ago
Would you trust Elon or ULA to take you to the ISS? Even though ULA has tweeted pretty much no falsehoods (that I know of) You're complaining about tweets and meanwhile he's saving astronauts and getting us to the moon. Wake up man.
- hobs 2y ago
  No, I am complaining about in person appearances in front of audiences where he knowingly lied, moving the goalposts doesn't make him honest, just more trustworthy to complete something than {insert incompetent people here}. Having the general ability to accomplish something doesn't magically infer integrity, you doing what you say does. Misleading and dissembling about doing what you say you will do is where you get the untrustworthy label, regardless of your personal animus or positive view of Musk.
lenkite 2y ago
When did Elon ban any of his critics permanently from Twitter ? The most famous I remember was Kathy Griffin for impersonation, but she was brought back after the "parody" label was added. And that was done to multiple parody accounts not just hers.
- hobs 2y ago
  Without malice - spend a minute googling "elon musk bans critics" - he's been banning journalists and people who simply report on him. https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/17/business/elon-musk-twitter-ban-reverse-conditions/ https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/17/business/elon-musk-twitter-ba...

by hobs 2y ago

cynicalpeace 2y ago

Would you trust Elon or ULA to take you to the ISS? Even though ULA has tweeted pretty much no falsehoods (that I know of) You're complaining about tweets and meanwhile he's saving astronauts and getting us to the moon. Wake up man.

hobs 2y ago
No, I am complaining about in person appearances in front of audiences where he knowingly lied, moving the goalposts doesn't make him honest, just more trustworthy to complete something than {insert incompetent people here}. Having the general ability to accomplish something doesn't magically infer integrity, you doing what you say does. Misleading and dissembling about doing what you say you will do is where you get the untrustworthy label, regardless of your personal animus or positive view of Musk.

lenkite 2y ago

When did Elon ban any of his critics permanently from Twitter ? The most famous I remember was Kathy Griffin for impersonation, but she was brought back after the "parody" label was added. And that was done to multiple parody accounts not just hers.

hobs 2y ago
Without malice - spend a minute googling "elon musk bans critics" - he's been banning journalists and people who simply report on him. https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/17/business/elon-musk-twitter-ban-reverse-conditions/ https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/17/business/elon-musk-twitter-ba...