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I don't know the first thing about such things, but I'll bet if companies were pushed on this they'd suddenly start asserting that it's a lease, which I think i

by twh270 2y ago

I don't know the first thing about such things, but I'll bet if companies were pushed on this they'd suddenly start asserting that it's a lease, which I think is typically taxed similarly to a sale. I hate the "everything's a subscription" business model that's taking over everything. We'll achieve peak serfdom when the air we breathe, water we drink, and food we eat is bought on a subscription model.

WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
> I'll bet if companies were pushed on this they'd suddenly start asserting that it's a lease, which I think is typically taxed similarly to a sale. A lease allows for the buyer to own the product, free and clear of the seller.
- lotsofpulp 2y ago
  Not in real estate. There is technically no difference between leasing and renting, other than the things that are colloquially associated with. A lease agreement (or rental agreement) may or may not have a clause offering the borrower an opportunity to take ownership. Rent might also refer to the price portion of a leasing agreement (or rental agreement). So in shorthand usage, “the lease” might encompass all terms of borrowing something, including the price, but “the rent” might just refer to the price.
CatWChainsaw 2y ago
If it were feasible to charge you for your own heartbeats, companies absolutely would. Infinite growth is a poison pill idea - it brought us to where we are today, and would drag us to the future you outlined, unless the folly is abandoned.
- datavirtue 2y ago
  Nothing wrong with growth,it's natural. The population grows and so does the money supply in turn. This is good. What is not good is when a particular company is trying to retain ALL growth of certain segments for themselves through abusive leverage. A principle that stuck out to me as a child was that our society prioritized lower prices for consumers as a whole over the prosperity of any one company or industry. We let companies grow to the point where they now subvert the will of the people.
  - CatWChainsaw 2y ago
    Growth is good until it's not, cancer would like a word. The only thing that seems capable of growing forever is the amount of space in the universe. Line go up increasingly fast always forever is a bullshit fever dream that needs to be culled with prejudice.
Qwertious 2y ago
Water is already a subscription model. Food sometimes is, and honestly a more centralised food subscription system could drive down the cost of food by making demand more predictable and enabling better economy of scale.
- xigoi 2y ago
  How is water a subscription model? You pay for the water you take from the tap. After you take it, it’s yours.

by twh270 2y ago

WarOnPrivacy 2y ago

> I'll bet if companies were pushed on this they'd suddenly start asserting that it's a lease, which I think is typically taxed similarly to a sale. A lease allows for the buyer to own the product, free and clear of the seller.

lotsofpulp 2y ago
Not in real estate. There is technically no difference between leasing and renting, other than the things that are colloquially associated with. A lease agreement (or rental agreement) may or may not have a clause offering the borrower an opportunity to take ownership. Rent might also refer to the price portion of a leasing agreement (or rental agreement). So in shorthand usage, “the lease” might encompass all terms of borrowing something, including the price, but “the rent” might just refer to the price.

CatWChainsaw 2y ago

If it were feasible to charge you for your own heartbeats, companies absolutely would. Infinite growth is a poison pill idea - it brought us to where we are today, and would drag us to the future you outlined, unless the folly is abandoned.

datavirtue 2y ago
Nothing wrong with growth,it's natural. The population grows and so does the money supply in turn. This is good. What is not good is when a particular company is trying to retain ALL growth of certain segments for themselves through abusive leverage. A principle that stuck out to me as a child was that our society prioritized lower prices for consumers as a whole over the prosperity of any one company or industry. We let companies grow to the point where they now subvert the will of the people.
- CatWChainsaw 2y ago
  Growth is good until it's not, cancer would like a word. The only thing that seems capable of growing forever is the amount of space in the universe. Line go up increasingly fast always forever is a bullshit fever dream that needs to be culled with prejudice.

Qwertious 2y ago

Water is already a subscription model. Food sometimes is, and honestly a more centralised food subscription system could drive down the cost of food by making demand more predictable and enabling better economy of scale.

xigoi 2y ago
How is water a subscription model? You pay for the water you take from the tap. After you take it, it’s yours.