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Do I read something wrong, or does the stats amount to ~400 daily visitors with ~2500 page views per day? That's about ~1.7 requests per minute... And they pay

by diggan 2y ago

Do I read something wrong, or does the stats amount to ~400 daily visitors with ~2500 page views per day? That's about ~1.7 requests per minute... And they pay $115/month for this? I'm 99% sure I'm reading something wrong, as that's incredible expensive unless this is hosting LLM models or something similar, but it seems like it's a website for sharing expenses?

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roflmaostc 2y ago
Yeah, I'm confused too. Running some sort of VPS would totally do the job, no?
- diggan 2y ago
  I'm fairly sure you could host this on a last-gen Raspberry PI at home, if you live close to where your users are :)
  - Aachen 2y ago
    Definitely don't need a last gen. Someone else did the math upthread and came to one request every 20 seconds, which if you factor in burstiness and that if you have a particularly bad burst that slows down the system a little, the next request will take even longer etc. (ask me how I learned that lesson), it's probably good to budget for it handling multiple requests per second. For this application, my understanding is you've got a handful of people in your group that you're splitting a couple of expenses with, so data processing is small beans and that'll definitely run on a first gen Pi if you optimise it properly, or perhaps a 2nd-3rd gen if you don't want to spend the time
Vegenoid 2y ago
I think this is just the natural conclusion of the new generation of devs being raised in the cloud and picking a scalable serverless PaaS like Vercel as the default option for any web app. A more charitable reading is that they pick the technologies that the jobs they want are hiring for, even if they don’t make sense for this simple application.
- diggan 2y ago
  > I think this is just the natural conclusion of the new generation of devs being raised in the cloud and picking a scalable serverless PaaS like Vercel as the default option for any web app. I'm not sure, I'm also "new generation of devs" I suppose, cloud had just entered the beginning of the hype cycle when I started out professionally. Most companies/individuals at that point were pushing for "everything cloud" but after experiencing how expensive it really is, you start to look around for alternatives. I feel like that's just trying to have a "engineering mindset" rather than what generation you belong to.
  - Vegenoid 2y ago
    Certainly, I just mean that we are hitting a point where there can be professional devs, with multiple years of experience at tech companies successfully building software, who have only ever known and worked with a PaaS to deploy an app.
    - consteval 2y ago
      It's frustrating too because deployment technologies and tools continue to get better and better. It's never been easier to deploy an application + database to some arbitrary computer. You can do it declaratively, no SSH, no random shell scripts, no suspicious fiddling. Also, sidenote: but for small stuff you can just deploy in your home. I've done it before. It's really not that scary, and odds are you have a computer laying around. The only "spooky" part is relying on my ISP router. I don't trust that thing, but that can be fixed.
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roflmaostc 2y ago

Yeah, I'm confused too. Running some sort of VPS would totally do the job, no?

diggan 2y ago
I'm fairly sure you could host this on a last-gen Raspberry PI at home, if you live close to where your users are :)
- Aachen 2y ago
  Definitely don't need a last gen. Someone else did the math upthread and came to one request every 20 seconds, which if you factor in burstiness and that if you have a particularly bad burst that slows down the system a little, the next request will take even longer etc. (ask me how I learned that lesson), it's probably good to budget for it handling multiple requests per second. For this application, my understanding is you've got a handful of people in your group that you're splitting a couple of expenses with, so data processing is small beans and that'll definitely run on a first gen Pi if you optimise it properly, or perhaps a 2nd-3rd gen if you don't want to spend the time

Vegenoid 2y ago

I think this is just the natural conclusion of the new generation of devs being raised in the cloud and picking a scalable serverless PaaS like Vercel as the default option for any web app. A more charitable reading is that they pick the technologies that the jobs they want are hiring for, even if they don’t make sense for this simple application.

diggan 2y ago
> I think this is just the natural conclusion of the new generation of devs being raised in the cloud and picking a scalable serverless PaaS like Vercel as the default option for any web app. I'm not sure, I'm also "new generation of devs" I suppose, cloud had just entered the beginning of the hype cycle when I started out professionally. Most companies/individuals at that point were pushing for "everything cloud" but after experiencing how expensive it really is, you start to look around for alternatives. I feel like that's just trying to have a "engineering mindset" rather than what generation you belong to.
- Vegenoid 2y ago
  Certainly, I just mean that we are hitting a point where there can be professional devs, with multiple years of experience at tech companies successfully building software, who have only ever known and worked with a PaaS to deploy an app.
  - consteval 2y ago
    It's frustrating too because deployment technologies and tools continue to get better and better. It's never been easier to deploy an application + database to some arbitrary computer. You can do it declaratively, no SSH, no random shell scripts, no suspicious fiddling. Also, sidenote: but for small stuff you can just deploy in your home. I've done it before. It's really not that scary, and odds are you have a computer laying around. The only "spooky" part is relying on my ISP router. I don't trust that thing, but that can be fixed.
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