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Every now and then I download Firefox and try to gaslight myself that it's actually a good browser now. It usually doesn't take long before I'm using a chromium

by axpvms 2y ago

Every now and then I download Firefox and try to gaslight myself that it's actually a good browser now. It usually doesn't take long before I'm using a chromium based browser again.

Kerbonut 2y ago
Ok, I’ll bite. What is your experience like on Firefox? What things convince you back to Chromium?
- Unai 2y ago
  I'm not the person you asked, but I could have written the exact same comment. For me, SSB and chromium's much better profile functionality are the biggest hurdles when trying to move to Firefox or a Firefox-based browser. I also encounter way too many bugs and weird behaviours in Firefox web dev tools. I hate chromium dev tools too, but I find it a more consistent bad experience. The closest I've been to fully switching has been Zen browser. The ability to completely hide the browser's UI so you only see it when hovering is almost good enough to forget all other issues I got with Firefox. That "focus mode", vertical tabs, and side-panels, are the best UI elements to come to browsers since tabs, and I hope and expect all browsers copy them soon enough.
  - Vinnl 2y ago
    Vertical tabs, an improved sidebar, and a better profile switcher are all in development for Firefox I believe, so that's something. And I guess the collapsed vertical tabs mode on Firefox gets pretty close to focus mode? (You can try that one out already on Firefox Nightly - there's "Firefox Labs" in the settings where you can enable it.)
downut 2y ago
I want to thank you for your service. It is courageous and principled people like yourself that supplies enough eyeballs on chromium that incentivizes bigcorp adtech to keep things slightly less worse.
gitaarik 2y ago
You probably switch back too soon. It's probably largely that you're just used to Chrome, and it takes effort to switch to something that works slightly different. The bugs you are talking about are probably not bugs, but seem like bugs to you, because it doesn't work the same way as in Chrome. (edit: sorry you were not talking about bugs, was confusing with another reply in this thread) That is probably the biggest reason most people stay with Chrome. When Google created their browser and did their big global campaign they got most people used to using their browser, and now it's hard for people to move away from it, so they can make changes to the browser that are profiting for them. It's up to the end user to decide if it wants Google to guide their internet browsing experience, or that it rather joins a more open and independent community.

by axpvms 2y ago

Every now and then I download Firefox and try to gaslight myself that it's actually a good browser now. It usually doesn't take long before I'm using a chromium based browser again.

Kerbonut 2y ago

Ok, I’ll bite. What is your experience like on Firefox? What things convince you back to Chromium?

Unai 2y ago
I'm not the person you asked, but I could have written the exact same comment. For me, SSB and chromium's much better profile functionality are the biggest hurdles when trying to move to Firefox or a Firefox-based browser. I also encounter way too many bugs and weird behaviours in Firefox web dev tools. I hate chromium dev tools too, but I find it a more consistent bad experience. The closest I've been to fully switching has been Zen browser. The ability to completely hide the browser's UI so you only see it when hovering is almost good enough to forget all other issues I got with Firefox. That "focus mode", vertical tabs, and side-panels, are the best UI elements to come to browsers since tabs, and I hope and expect all browsers copy them soon enough.
- Vinnl 2y ago
  Vertical tabs, an improved sidebar, and a better profile switcher are all in development for Firefox I believe, so that's something. And I guess the collapsed vertical tabs mode on Firefox gets pretty close to focus mode? (You can try that one out already on Firefox Nightly - there's "Firefox Labs" in the settings where you can enable it.)

downut 2y ago

I want to thank you for your service. It is courageous and principled people like yourself that supplies enough eyeballs on chromium that incentivizes bigcorp adtech to keep things slightly less worse.

gitaarik 2y ago

You probably switch back too soon. It's probably largely that you're just used to Chrome, and it takes effort to switch to something that works slightly different. The bugs you are talking about are probably not bugs, but seem like bugs to you, because it doesn't work the same way as in Chrome. (edit: sorry you were not talking about bugs, was confusing with another reply in this thread) That is probably the biggest reason most people stay with Chrome. When Google created their browser and did their big global campaign they got most people used to using their browser, and now it's hard for people to move away from it, so they can make changes to the browser that are profiting for them. It's up to the end user to decide if it wants Google to guide their internet browsing experience, or that it rather joins a more open and independent community.