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Doesn't Safari massively gimp ad blockers?

by Hamuko 2y ago

pimeys 2y ago
A good way to test the adblocker is with this website: https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock For me, Firefox and uBlock Origin on Linux and on Android both block 99-100% of ads.
- drcongo 2y ago
  Safari with AdGuard and NextDNS here: 134 blocked, 1 not blocked. Ad blocking on Safari is just about perfect.
- bombcar 2y ago
  AdGuard Pro for safari on iPhone got 84%. It works well enough for me - the sites that are so aggressive that ads get through I don’t visit.
  - ulfw 2y ago
    I get 100% with Adguard on iPhone Safari + nextDNS for dns level blocking.
- Kerbonut 2y ago
  I must be doing good because that site is broken for me. Null not/blocked and null total. (Ninja edit: Safari btw)
- Scion9066 2y ago
  97% with a pihole and uBlock Origin Lite. 99% if I turn the filtering mode to "complete".
- romanovcode 2y ago
  AdGuard (Free OS Safari extension), 93%. Good enough. Couldn't care less about Blink engine. People are really so stuck on Chrome that they don't see other options that are just as viable if not better infront of their eyes (Firefox, Safari).
rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 2y ago
Yeah, Safari is on manifest v3 for some years now. Please that recomend it over Chrome for adblocking are clueless.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  Safari’s existence (in iOS, at least, for now) is what keeps Chrome from unilaterally determining the future of the web.
  - concinds 2y ago
    That's a fallacious argument: https://infrequently.org/2022/06/apple-is-not-defending-browser-engine-choice/ https://infrequently.org/2022/06/apple-is-not-defending-brow...
    - ceejayoz 2y ago
      No; your link immediately waters down its claims: “at least that's not the primary effect”. It needn’t be primary to be important. If iOS didn’t enforce Safari, we’d see a lot more “only works in Chrome” signs on sites and “emerging standards” would be added to Chrome without much chance of Firefox keeping pace. Apple’s motivations are hardly pure, but as a FF user I’m glad iOS has the market share it does.
- concinds 2y ago
  Safari is much more limited than even manifest v3. Gorhill's mv3 extension, uBlock Lite, can't support Safari because Apple refuses to support half the web APIs necessary, despite constant requests and appeals, including directly by Gorhill to Safari's DevRel person. Works fine for basic ads but more tracking goes through, which is silly.

Doesn't Safari massively gimp ad blockers?

by Hamuko 2y ago

Doesn't Safari massively gimp ad blockers?

A good way to test the adblocker is with this website: https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock For me, Firefox and uBlock Origin on Linux and on Android both block 99-100% of ads.

drcongo 2y ago
Safari with AdGuard and NextDNS here: 134 blocked, 1 not blocked. Ad blocking on Safari is just about perfect.
bombcar 2y ago
AdGuard Pro for safari on iPhone got 84%. It works well enough for me - the sites that are so aggressive that ads get through I don’t visit.
- ulfw 2y ago
  I get 100% with Adguard on iPhone Safari + nextDNS for dns level blocking.
Kerbonut 2y ago
I must be doing good because that site is broken for me. Null not/blocked and null total. (Ninja edit: Safari btw)
Scion9066 2y ago
97% with a pihole and uBlock Origin Lite. 99% if I turn the filtering mode to "complete".
romanovcode 2y ago
AdGuard (Free OS Safari extension), 93%. Good enough. Couldn't care less about Blink engine. People are really so stuck on Chrome that they don't see other options that are just as viable if not better infront of their eyes (Firefox, Safari).

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 2y ago

Yeah, Safari is on manifest v3 for some years now. Please that recomend it over Chrome for adblocking are clueless.

ceejayoz 2y ago
Safari’s existence (in iOS, at least, for now) is what keeps Chrome from unilaterally determining the future of the web.
- concinds 2y ago
  That's a fallacious argument: https://infrequently.org/2022/06/apple-is-not-defending-browser-engine-choice/ https://infrequently.org/2022/06/apple-is-not-defending-brow...
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    No; your link immediately waters down its claims: “at least that's not the primary effect”. It needn’t be primary to be important. If iOS didn’t enforce Safari, we’d see a lot more “only works in Chrome” signs on sites and “emerging standards” would be added to Chrome without much chance of Firefox keeping pace. Apple’s motivations are hardly pure, but as a FF user I’m glad iOS has the market share it does.
concinds 2y ago
Safari is much more limited than even manifest v3. Gorhill's mv3 extension, uBlock Lite, can't support Safari because Apple refuses to support half the web APIs necessary, despite constant requests and appeals, including directly by Gorhill to Safari's DevRel person. Works fine for basic ads but more tracking goes through, which is silly.