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> Garman said under the three-day policy, "we didn't really accomplish anything, like we didn't get to work together and learn from each other." If you can't w

> Garman said under the three-day policy, "we didn't really accomplish anything, like we didn't get to work together and learn from each other." If you can't work effectively and learn from each other without physically sitting together, then it's indicative of poor communication and an unfriendly team. Remote work isn't a root cause of those things. though it might occasionally make them worse. > "I don't know if you guys have tried to disagree via a Chime call," he said, referring to the company's internal messaging and calling function. "It's very hard." Disagreeing isn't any more difficult over a video call. This is just waffling. > "You can't internalize [leadership principles] by reading them on the website, you really have to experience them day-to-day," he said. In my experience, talking about leadership principles (whether in person or remote) doesn't result in new hires learning to follow them. Culture is something you define through action, and your actions demonstrate the priorities and culture of the company implicitly. If your coworkers don't follow the stated principles of the company culture, then it's NOT the company culture. A remote worker should learn the principles of company culture just fine... if they truly represent the culture of the company, rather than just being talking points.

FireBeyond 2y ago
> > "You can't internalize [leadership principles] by reading them on the website, you really have to experience them day-to-day," he said. > In my experience, talking about leadership principles (whether in person or remote) doesn't result in new hires learning to follow them. Culture is something you define through action, and your actions demonstrate the priorities and culture of the company implicitly. Apropos of anything, Amazon's attitude to leadership principles grinds my gears. How many are there now? Sixteen? Quick, any Amazon employeee, name each of them! And then their "bar-raisers" are often working the Amazon "superiority", "condescension" hard. Some quotes I've heard from them on the leadership principles: > "We don't expect that you use leadership principles at your current job" > at other companies, employees don't "focus on the customer as their customer", instead "their customer is their boss ... and they're focused on doing what they're told". > "I know I’ve certainly referenced a leadership principle or two while talking about parenting techniques." I'm sure that last one really impressed your partner. "You know honey, I know we're struggling with the toddler transition, but one of our SVPs once said ... and I think that's a good leadership principle we could apply at home."
- A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago
  I will say this without and I mean it. I am kinda done. Whatever reason they can come up with, it does not matter. That ship has sailed when the propaganda machine tried to paint 'driving to work as zen time'[1]. So I am done arguing. We will see how many will do the same, because one can literally vote with feet and just not show up. And.. there is nothing they can do if it is done throughout the industry. On a separate note, if the executives truly think they can just put AI into everything ( and looks like some have truly drank the koolaid ) and let skeleton crew attempt to maintain stuff, I suppose I can't do much else but sit back and just appreciate real life idiocracy unfold before our very eyes. [1]https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2023/05/26/how-to-become-zen-and-happier-at-work/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2023/05/26/how-to-bec...
belter 2y ago
- Telling unhappy employees to leave over rigid office rules, is like a retailer advising dissatisfied customers to shop elsewhere... - Mandating office attendance ignores that remote work can enhance efficiency. - Enforcing a strict office mandate, makes AWS appear disconnected from modern workplace trends, risking its reputation as innovative leader.
accra4rx 2y ago
seems like chime can have a disagree button. problem solved btw : chime is one of the most worst product Amazon has ever built

FireBeyond 2y ago

> > "You can't internalize [leadership principles] by reading them on the website, you really have to experience them day-to-day," he said. > In my experience, talking about leadership principles (whether in person or remote) doesn't result in new hires learning to follow them. Culture is something you define through action, and your actions demonstrate the priorities and culture of the company implicitly. Apropos of anything, Amazon's attitude to leadership principles grinds my gears. How many are there now? Sixteen? Quick, any Amazon employeee, name each of them! And then their "bar-raisers" are often working the Amazon "superiority", "condescension" hard. Some quotes I've heard from them on the leadership principles: > "We don't expect that you use leadership principles at your current job" > at other companies, employees don't "focus on the customer as their customer", instead "their customer is their boss ... and they're focused on doing what they're told". > "I know I’ve certainly referenced a leadership principle or two while talking about parenting techniques." I'm sure that last one really impressed your partner. "You know honey, I know we're struggling with the toddler transition, but one of our SVPs once said ... and I think that's a good leadership principle we could apply at home."

A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago
I will say this without and I mean it. I am kinda done. Whatever reason they can come up with, it does not matter. That ship has sailed when the propaganda machine tried to paint 'driving to work as zen time'[1]. So I am done arguing. We will see how many will do the same, because one can literally vote with feet and just not show up. And.. there is nothing they can do if it is done throughout the industry. On a separate note, if the executives truly think they can just put AI into everything ( and looks like some have truly drank the koolaid ) and let skeleton crew attempt to maintain stuff, I suppose I can't do much else but sit back and just appreciate real life idiocracy unfold before our very eyes. [1]https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2023/05/26/how-to-become-zen-and-happier-at-work/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2023/05/26/how-to-bec...

belter 2y ago

- Telling unhappy employees to leave over rigid office rules, is like a retailer advising dissatisfied customers to shop elsewhere... - Mandating office attendance ignores that remote work can enhance efficiency. - Enforcing a strict office mandate, makes AWS appear disconnected from modern workplace trends, risking its reputation as innovative leader.

accra4rx 2y ago

seems like chime can have a disagree button. problem solved btw : chime is one of the most worst product Amazon has ever built