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That's entirely false. > > You may have discussions about wages when not at work, when you are on break, and even during work if employees are permitted to hav

by Alupis 2y ago

That's entirely false. > > You may have discussions about wages when not at work, when you are on break, and even during work if employees are permitted to have other non-work conversations. You have these rights whether or not you are represented by a union. So which employer expressly allows you to use company time and property to do non-company things? Oh, right... none. So you clocking into work (figuratively or literally), logging into you company computer, browsing to a non-work-related website and gabbing all day is not protected.

ceejayoz 2y ago
> So which employer expressly allows you to use company time and property to do non-company things? Oh, right... none. Virtually all companies permit non-disruptive non-work discussions during the work day. "How was your weekend?", for example. Unless you're something like a voice actor, they can even usually occur while you work.
- Alupis 2y ago
  "How was your weekend" is not the same as spending a couple hours on a non-work related website. This is not a union/organization issue. This is a very simple case of employees goofing off on the clock and being surprised the company found out about it. There wouldn't even be an article about this had any of this occurred after hours or on breaks. The fact that breaks aren't even part of the discussion tells you without ambiguity these people were stealing company time, money and resources instead of doing the thing they were hired to do.
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    > "How was your weekend" is not the same as spending a couple hours on a non-work related website. If it takes you "a couple hours" to complete https://www.teamblind.com/sign-up https://www.teamblind.com/sign-up, that's on you. > There wouldn't even be an article about this had any of this occurred after hours or on breaks. You can't just make shit up to win an argument; there's absolutely no way of telling whether or not these emails were generated during breaks. All we know is Matt intercepted them. They could've signed up outside of work hours, during breaks, on vacation, etc. and Matt would still have been receiving them. If it's anything like most other tech companies, breaks aren't even formal, let alone tracked/timestamped.

by Alupis 2y ago

ceejayoz 2y ago

> So which employer expressly allows you to use company time and property to do non-company things? Oh, right... none. Virtually all companies permit non-disruptive non-work discussions during the work day. "How was your weekend?", for example. Unless you're something like a voice actor, they can even usually occur while you work.

Alupis 2y ago
"How was your weekend" is not the same as spending a couple hours on a non-work related website. This is not a union/organization issue. This is a very simple case of employees goofing off on the clock and being surprised the company found out about it. There wouldn't even be an article about this had any of this occurred after hours or on breaks. The fact that breaks aren't even part of the discussion tells you without ambiguity these people were stealing company time, money and resources instead of doing the thing they were hired to do.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  > "How was your weekend" is not the same as spending a couple hours on a non-work related website. If it takes you "a couple hours" to complete https://www.teamblind.com/sign-up https://www.teamblind.com/sign-up, that's on you. > There wouldn't even be an article about this had any of this occurred after hours or on breaks. You can't just make shit up to win an argument; there's absolutely no way of telling whether or not these emails were generated during breaks. All we know is Matt intercepted them. They could've signed up outside of work hours, during breaks, on vacation, etc. and Matt would still have been receiving them. If it's anything like most other tech companies, breaks aren't even formal, let alone tracked/timestamped.