I mean that using software outside from its own boundaries was the original hacker spirit. Yes, I know about Macsyma, I tried it under ITS on Simh. Similary, E

I mean that using software outside from its own boundaries was the original hacker spirit. Yes, I know about Macsyma, I tried it under ITS on Simh. Similary, Emacs got an apt environment outside of editing code with Org-Mode, ERC-TLS, Mastodon.el, EMMS... by properly modularizing the functions. Excel tries to do it all to fit all users in the same place. A recipe for disasters on serious environments. Some cores are just better to develop a usable environment. MacLisp was. Today Common Lisp it's more than able to fit almost any niche. Excel with VBA isn't a proper environment for scientific computing, it's too bound for office tasks, paperwork and accounting. Ditto with Access being overused as if it could complete with MariaDB, Oracle... generating even more bugs in software and potential issues and lawsuits, as it happened with the scientific papers. And, no, Libreoffice, even being libre software isn't a solution for serious computing either.