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There's not a lot to learn, desktop Linux is pretty much the same as windows was when it was still good.

by CalRobert 2y ago

tobyhinloopen 2y ago
It is not
nickserv 2y ago
... until you need dx12 support.
- gpderetta 2y ago
  isn't VKD3D good enough?
- titaniumtown 2y ago
  There are directX to vulkan translation layers such as https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk for up to dx11. For dx12 specifically, you have vkd3d: https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/vkd3d/-/wikis/home https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/vkd3d/-/wikis/home
- a_humean 2y ago
  Valve's proton and VKD3D basically covers all of that. The only games that I have any trouble running on my fedora/amd system are those that use invasive anti-cheat.
- nickserv 2y ago
  To the downvoters: I am well aware that Linux can run modern games. In fact my gaming rig is a KDE Neon 6.2 install with all latest mesa, amdgpu, etc. I play the latest dx12 games just fine on it. But the original point wasn't whether Linux could, but whether it's different from Windows. And as someone who compiles DXVK from git: dx12 won't work out of the box; it is different from Windows. Not particularly difficult, but different...
soco 2y ago
Can any distribution handle automatic updates?
- bubblethink 2y ago
  Most can, although you probably don't want it. Updates on linux are already infinitely better than windows. That's not the question to ask. You should ask if a laptop goes to sleep on linux, will it wake up ? Nobody knows.
  - llm_trw 2y ago
    >You should ask if a laptop goes to sleep on linux, will it wake up ? Nobody knows. I've only been using Linux for 20 years so can you explain what you mean by this?
    - rob74 2y ago
      If you have never had such issues (not had them and fixed them, that doesn't count), consider yourself lucky...
    - bubblethink 2y ago
      Modern sleep (s0ix) is a mess on linux. Laptops will either not sleep, or sleep but not wake up, or drain the battery while they are asleep, or peripherals won't work after they wake up, or monitors won't light up, or things won't be where you left them on the monitor, or wifi or bluetooth won't work after resume, or they'll get stuck in a low frequency mode, ....
      - terribleperson 2y ago
        Would you believe I've had all of these problems in Windows on a Surface Pro? Modern sleep was a mistake.
      - NoGravitas 2y ago
        Modern sleep also drains your battery and heats up your laptop on Windows too (but not most of the other problems). I miss the days when you could put a sleeping laptop in a bag, but now, on Windows, you have to either re-enable hibernation (for however long they allow that), or fully shut down. Modern sleep was a mistake.
adrift 2y ago
delusional take
rob74 2y ago
That begs the question, was Windows ever good? OTOH, the Linux desktop experience may be better than Windows, but (as someone who uses Linux both on my home PC and work laptop) I also wouldn't describe it as 100% "good". It works most of the time, but if you run into issues, good luck - especially with things like Wayland, that Ubuntu simply decided to let loose on its unsuspecting users...

There's not a lot to learn, desktop Linux is pretty much the same as windows was when it was still good.

tobyhinloopen 2y ago

It is not

nickserv 2y ago

... until you need dx12 support.

gpderetta 2y ago
isn't VKD3D good enough?
titaniumtown 2y ago
There are directX to vulkan translation layers such as https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk for up to dx11. For dx12 specifically, you have vkd3d: https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/vkd3d/-/wikis/home https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/vkd3d/-/wikis/home
a_humean 2y ago
Valve's proton and VKD3D basically covers all of that. The only games that I have any trouble running on my fedora/amd system are those that use invasive anti-cheat.
nickserv 2y ago
To the downvoters: I am well aware that Linux can run modern games. In fact my gaming rig is a KDE Neon 6.2 install with all latest mesa, amdgpu, etc. I play the latest dx12 games just fine on it. But the original point wasn't whether Linux could, but whether it's different from Windows. And as someone who compiles DXVK from git: dx12 won't work out of the box; it is different from Windows. Not particularly difficult, but different...

soco 2y ago

Can any distribution handle automatic updates?

bubblethink 2y ago
Most can, although you probably don't want it. Updates on linux are already infinitely better than windows. That's not the question to ask. You should ask if a laptop goes to sleep on linux, will it wake up ? Nobody knows.
- llm_trw 2y ago
  >You should ask if a laptop goes to sleep on linux, will it wake up ? Nobody knows. I've only been using Linux for 20 years so can you explain what you mean by this?
  - rob74 2y ago
    If you have never had such issues (not had them and fixed them, that doesn't count), consider yourself lucky...
  - bubblethink 2y ago
    Modern sleep (s0ix) is a mess on linux. Laptops will either not sleep, or sleep but not wake up, or drain the battery while they are asleep, or peripherals won't work after they wake up, or monitors won't light up, or things won't be where you left them on the monitor, or wifi or bluetooth won't work after resume, or they'll get stuck in a low frequency mode, ....
    - terribleperson 2y ago
      Would you believe I've had all of these problems in Windows on a Surface Pro? Modern sleep was a mistake.
    - NoGravitas 2y ago
      Modern sleep also drains your battery and heats up your laptop on Windows too (but not most of the other problems). I miss the days when you could put a sleeping laptop in a bag, but now, on Windows, you have to either re-enable hibernation (for however long they allow that), or fully shut down. Modern sleep was a mistake.

adrift 2y ago

delusional take

rob74 2y ago

That begs the question, was Windows ever good? OTOH, the Linux desktop experience may be better than Windows, but (as someone who uses Linux both on my home PC and work laptop) I also wouldn't describe it as 100% "good". It works most of the time, but if you run into issues, good luck - especially with things like Wayland, that Ubuntu simply decided to let loose on its unsuspecting users...