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> When it started deleting books i had side-loaded via calibre Could you expand on that? I load all my books via calibre but I also have the kindle set to aero

by koyote 2y ago

> When it started deleting books i had side-loaded via calibre Could you expand on that? I load all my books via calibre but I also have the kindle set to aeroplane mode at all times. Does this happen when syncing?

wooque 2y ago
It deletes all side-loaded books when you connect it to the internet, happened to me as well.
- stevepike 2y ago
  It doesn't do this for me. I've got side-loaded and Amazon store books on the same device, no problem.
  - freedomben 2y ago
    It also deleted all my side-loaded books. That was the last straw for me. I only buy DRM-free media from now on and only use respectful hardware. I use my Remarkable 2 primarily for e-reading now, though I concede fully it's not the best user experience for reading. But I don't have to worry that it will delete my books! I can also now "write in the margins" which I've found to be a powerful way to take notes. I can't bring myself to write on physical books, but with Remarkable you can have a copy that is stock and a copy with your notes on it. Best of both worlds!
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- hasbot 2y ago
  Huh. All my books are side-loaded and I've not had any issues.
  - mholm 2y ago
    As far as I can tell, it's a fairly rare bug. I've only had it happen to me once in 6 years. But the moment it happened, I decided I was never buying a Kindle again. I still have my paperwhite because it works fine, but it's never connecting to the internet again.
- jacurtis 2y ago
  That is strange. I have had a Kindle for years (probably around a decade), upgrading mutliple times. I am using a Paperwhite Signature for the past year or so and I have not experienced this with any books. I have probably 70% Amazon purchased books, but that still leaves a decent amount of side-loaded books (mostly epub). The only annoying thing I experience is that the cover art will unload on the side-loaded books where you just get the generic cover with the text of the book. But once you click the book it loads the artwork, which seems to last a few days before quickly going back to the generic cover. But the book itself never leaves the device. I can't say I have experienced this ever (except for once, mentioned below) and I have over 150 books on my 32Gb device. Just some random thoughts I am wondering: - Is it an ads-supported model (mine isn't) - Are the books in a broken-DRM .mobi? Not judging, i've done it too, just curious if Amazon has some sort of "signature" in mobis that allow it to detect a book that had DRM removed? - Are they standard .epub? - What is the size of the device? (Maybe smaller 8Gb devices will clean up and prioritize non-Kindle content to make way for "official content) - Which device is it? (Scribe, Oasis, Paperwhite, older paperwhite, etc) The one time I had it deleting my book was a large book (it was 400Mb) and it was on an older 8Gb paperwhite. I still had PLENTY of storage space available (I was using around 4Gb) but it kept deleting that book. This was the only time I have seen it happen and it was with this one specific book. That was many years ago and I haven't seen it since. That book was a DRM-removed book I got through "shared" means. Which has led me to question if the Kindle removes it because it could detect that the DRM had been removed or because of its large size. But this was a one-off experience for me. The book was readable by the device. It would download for several weeks at a time before being removed. You could redownload it and it would work for weeks again before dissapearing. I never could figure it out.
  - pfooti 2y ago
    For me, they were drm free ebooks I bought legitimately and had to sideload via calibre because the kindle doesn't support epub. It's an old Paperwhite, and it only happens when I go out of airplane mode. However, I have to go out of airplane mode (or had to before I ditched the kindle for a kobo) to get library books and the occasional actual Amazon kindle book when I didn't feel like waiting for the library to get me to the front of the list. *Edit to add: I believe the kindle won't delete epubs you sideload via the Amazon kindle email gateway, but I have no interest in doing that.
- boneitis 2y ago
  Interesting thread. I wonder if this has anything to do with what I experienced with the one (two, actually) I set up for my mom years back. The books were visible on the filesystem but nowhere to be found when using the device. Fortunately, getting two units in a row with jarring pink blotches was enough of a non-starter to suggest that she just revert to a V4 without my having to explain the confusing behavior.
- pixelesque 2y ago
  I don't have that problem with my paperwhite... I've side-loaded .mobi and .pdf files, and have never had anything disappear, whilst still buying some things from Amazon kindle store...
- adhamsalama 2y ago
  Happens to me consistently if my device is on Airplane mode for a long time.
- fodkodrasz 2y ago
  Happened to me also. I will use the device in airplane mode as long as it lasts, but this is my last Kindle.
- dewey 2y ago
  That’s not right, I always buy books from Amazon over WiFi but also sync my books from Calibre. No issues for probably 10 years.
  - widowlark 2y ago
    is your wifi on when you add your calibre books? if so, thats why.
    - dewey 2y ago
      My wifi is alwasy on, I'm using a cable to sync from Calibre though after they kinda deprecated the "E-Mail to Kindle" feature.
qazxcvbnm 2y ago
Happened to me too… Yes, it happened during syncing. I searched up on how to disable Kindle auto update and it’s happening less, but last time I bought a book from Kindle store I got bit again. I guess it’s a sign to stop feeding the hand that bites me.
atulatul 2y ago
My notes/ underlines were wiped out when synched. (new edition with quality issues- spellings, I think- corrected.) Any workaround?
ptman 2y ago
I've had this problem as well. When going from offline to online, it removes books sideloaded via USB. But not books I've added via send to kindle or ones that I've downloaded via the experimental browser. So now, instead of sideloading via USB, I convert to mobi, run a python -m http.server on my laptop and use the experimental browser to download them on kindle.
tallanvor 2y ago
If you switch airplane mode on and off it can happen. If you have airplane mode off when you're side loading content (so the information that you've added files gets synced, you don't have to worry about it. The problem seems to be when things have changed in the cloud it doesn't check for new items you've loaded on the kindle first, and thinks something went wrong and deletes it.

by koyote 2y ago

wooque 2y ago

It deletes all side-loaded books when you connect it to the internet, happened to me as well.

stevepike 2y ago
It doesn't do this for me. I've got side-loaded and Amazon store books on the same device, no problem.
- freedomben 2y ago
  It also deleted all my side-loaded books. That was the last straw for me. I only buy DRM-free media from now on and only use respectful hardware. I use my Remarkable 2 primarily for e-reading now, though I concede fully it's not the best user experience for reading. But I don't have to worry that it will delete my books! I can also now "write in the margins" which I've found to be a powerful way to take notes. I can't bring myself to write on physical books, but with Remarkable you can have a copy that is stock and a copy with your notes on it. Best of both worlds!
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hasbot 2y ago
Huh. All my books are side-loaded and I've not had any issues.
- mholm 2y ago
  As far as I can tell, it's a fairly rare bug. I've only had it happen to me once in 6 years. But the moment it happened, I decided I was never buying a Kindle again. I still have my paperwhite because it works fine, but it's never connecting to the internet again.
jacurtis 2y ago
That is strange. I have had a Kindle for years (probably around a decade), upgrading mutliple times. I am using a Paperwhite Signature for the past year or so and I have not experienced this with any books. I have probably 70% Amazon purchased books, but that still leaves a decent amount of side-loaded books (mostly epub). The only annoying thing I experience is that the cover art will unload on the side-loaded books where you just get the generic cover with the text of the book. But once you click the book it loads the artwork, which seems to last a few days before quickly going back to the generic cover. But the book itself never leaves the device. I can't say I have experienced this ever (except for once, mentioned below) and I have over 150 books on my 32Gb device. Just some random thoughts I am wondering: - Is it an ads-supported model (mine isn't) - Are the books in a broken-DRM .mobi? Not judging, i've done it too, just curious if Amazon has some sort of "signature" in mobis that allow it to detect a book that had DRM removed? - Are they standard .epub? - What is the size of the device? (Maybe smaller 8Gb devices will clean up and prioritize non-Kindle content to make way for "official content) - Which device is it? (Scribe, Oasis, Paperwhite, older paperwhite, etc) The one time I had it deleting my book was a large book (it was 400Mb) and it was on an older 8Gb paperwhite. I still had PLENTY of storage space available (I was using around 4Gb) but it kept deleting that book. This was the only time I have seen it happen and it was with this one specific book. That was many years ago and I haven't seen it since. That book was a DRM-removed book I got through "shared" means. Which has led me to question if the Kindle removes it because it could detect that the DRM had been removed or because of its large size. But this was a one-off experience for me. The book was readable by the device. It would download for several weeks at a time before being removed. You could redownload it and it would work for weeks again before dissapearing. I never could figure it out.
- pfooti 2y ago
  For me, they were drm free ebooks I bought legitimately and had to sideload via calibre because the kindle doesn't support epub. It's an old Paperwhite, and it only happens when I go out of airplane mode. However, I have to go out of airplane mode (or had to before I ditched the kindle for a kobo) to get library books and the occasional actual Amazon kindle book when I didn't feel like waiting for the library to get me to the front of the list. *Edit to add: I believe the kindle won't delete epubs you sideload via the Amazon kindle email gateway, but I have no interest in doing that.
boneitis 2y ago
Interesting thread. I wonder if this has anything to do with what I experienced with the one (two, actually) I set up for my mom years back. The books were visible on the filesystem but nowhere to be found when using the device. Fortunately, getting two units in a row with jarring pink blotches was enough of a non-starter to suggest that she just revert to a V4 without my having to explain the confusing behavior.
pixelesque 2y ago
I don't have that problem with my paperwhite... I've side-loaded .mobi and .pdf files, and have never had anything disappear, whilst still buying some things from Amazon kindle store...
adhamsalama 2y ago
Happens to me consistently if my device is on Airplane mode for a long time.
fodkodrasz 2y ago
Happened to me also. I will use the device in airplane mode as long as it lasts, but this is my last Kindle.
dewey 2y ago
That’s not right, I always buy books from Amazon over WiFi but also sync my books from Calibre. No issues for probably 10 years.
- widowlark 2y ago
  is your wifi on when you add your calibre books? if so, thats why.
  - dewey 2y ago
    My wifi is alwasy on, I'm using a cable to sync from Calibre though after they kinda deprecated the "E-Mail to Kindle" feature.

qazxcvbnm 2y ago

Happened to me too… Yes, it happened during syncing. I searched up on how to disable Kindle auto update and it’s happening less, but last time I bought a book from Kindle store I got bit again. I guess it’s a sign to stop feeding the hand that bites me.

atulatul 2y ago

My notes/ underlines were wiped out when synched. (new edition with quality issues- spellings, I think- corrected.) Any workaround?

ptman 2y ago

I've had this problem as well. When going from offline to online, it removes books sideloaded via USB. But not books I've added via send to kindle or ones that I've downloaded via the experimental browser. So now, instead of sideloading via USB, I convert to mobi, run a python -m http.server on my laptop and use the experimental browser to download them on kindle.

tallanvor 2y ago

If you switch airplane mode on and off it can happen. If you have airplane mode off when you're side loading content (so the information that you've added files gets synced, you don't have to worry about it. The problem seems to be when things have changed in the cloud it doesn't check for new items you've loaded on the kindle first, and thinks something went wrong and deletes it.