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What exactly does Windows do with a NPU? I don't own an 'AI PC' but it seems like the NPUs are slow and can't run much. I know Apple's Neural Engine is used to

What exactly does Windows do with a NPU? I don't own an 'AI PC' but it seems like the NPUs are slow and can't run much. I know Apple's Neural Engine is used to power Face ID and the facial recognition stuff in Photos, among other things.

DrillShopper 2y ago
It supports Microsoft's Recall (now required) spyware
- Janicc 2y ago
  Please remind me again how Recall sends data to Microsoft. I must've missed that part. Or are you against the print screen button too? I heard that takes images too. Very scary.
  - throwaway314155 2y ago
    [dead]
  - cmeacham98 2y ago
    While calling it spyware like GP is over-exaggeration to a ridiculous level, comparing Recall to Print Screen is also inaccurate: Print Screen takes images on demand, Recall does so effectively at random. This means Recall could inadvertently screenshot and store information you didn't intend to keep a record of (To give an extreme example: Imagine an abuser uses Recall to discover their spouse browsing online domestic violence resources).
  - Terr_ 2y ago
    > Please remind me again how Recall sends data to Microsoft. I must've missed that part. Sure, just post the source code and I'll point out where it does so, I somehow misplaced my copy. /s The core problem here is trust, and over the last several years Microsoft has burned a hell of a lot of theirs with power-users of Windows. Even their most strident public promises of Recall being "opt-in" and "on-device only" will--paradoxically--only be kept as long as enough people remain suspicious. Glance away and MS go back to their old games, pushing a mandatory "security update" which reset or entirely-removes your privacy settings and adding new "telemetry" streams which you cannot inspect.
  - bloated5048 2y ago
    It's always safe to assume it does if it's closed source. I rather be suspicious of big corporations seeking to profit at every step than naive. Also, it's security risk which already been exploited. Sure, MS fixed it, but can you be certain it won't be exploited some time in the future again?
dagaci 2y ago
Its used for improving video calls, special effects, image editing/ effects and noise cancelling, teams stuff
downrightmike 2y ago
AI PC is just a marketing term, doesn't have any real substance
- acdha 2y ago
  Yea, we know that. I believe that’s why the person you’re replying too was asking for examples of real usage.

DrillShopper 2y ago

It supports Microsoft's Recall (now required) spyware

Janicc 2y ago
Please remind me again how Recall sends data to Microsoft. I must've missed that part. Or are you against the print screen button too? I heard that takes images too. Very scary.
- throwaway314155 2y ago
  [dead]
- cmeacham98 2y ago
  While calling it spyware like GP is over-exaggeration to a ridiculous level, comparing Recall to Print Screen is also inaccurate: Print Screen takes images on demand, Recall does so effectively at random. This means Recall could inadvertently screenshot and store information you didn't intend to keep a record of (To give an extreme example: Imagine an abuser uses Recall to discover their spouse browsing online domestic violence resources).
- Terr_ 2y ago
  > Please remind me again how Recall sends data to Microsoft. I must've missed that part. Sure, just post the source code and I'll point out where it does so, I somehow misplaced my copy. /s The core problem here is trust, and over the last several years Microsoft has burned a hell of a lot of theirs with power-users of Windows. Even their most strident public promises of Recall being "opt-in" and "on-device only" will--paradoxically--only be kept as long as enough people remain suspicious. Glance away and MS go back to their old games, pushing a mandatory "security update" which reset or entirely-removes your privacy settings and adding new "telemetry" streams which you cannot inspect.
- bloated5048 2y ago
  It's always safe to assume it does if it's closed source. I rather be suspicious of big corporations seeking to profit at every step than naive. Also, it's security risk which already been exploited. Sure, MS fixed it, but can you be certain it won't be exploited some time in the future again?

dagaci 2y ago

Its used for improving video calls, special effects, image editing/ effects and noise cancelling, teams stuff

downrightmike 2y ago

AI PC is just a marketing term, doesn't have any real substance

acdha 2y ago
Yea, we know that. I believe that’s why the person you’re replying too was asking for examples of real usage.