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Wine Is Not Emulator.

account42 2y ago
And this image does not depict a pipe: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/MagrittePipe.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/MagrittePipe.... Giving WINE (originally WINdows Emulator) a cute backronym does not change the definition of the word emulator or whether Wine is one. Please check your favorite dictionaries for that.
- fsflover 2y ago
  It actually doesn't do emulation but API AFAIK.
  - pjc50 2y ago
    Correct - the instructions in the Windows PE executable run natively. WINE provides a PE loader for exe and dll files (https://github.com/wine-mirror/wine/blob/master/dlls/ntdll/loader.c https://github.com/wine-mirror/wine/blob/master/dlls/ntdll/l...) and provides its own version of the API (user32.dll, kernel32.dll etc)
  - bmacho 2y ago
    Doing windows API is emulating windows > In computing, an emulator is hardware or software that enables one computer system (called the host) to behave like another computer system (called the guest). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulator
    - fsflover 2y ago
      Interesting. However WINE is not in this list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_system_emulators https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_system_emul...
      - jeffalyanak 2y ago
        It's an OS or API emulator, not a computer system emulator. It's a different scope, but still fits the definition of an emulator.
        bmacho 2y ago
        DOSBox is on the page, at [0]. IMO Wine should be on the page as well. [0] : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_system_emulators#x86_platforms_(32-bit_PC_and_compatible_hardware) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_system_emul...
- bmacho 2y ago
  > Giving WINE (originally WINdows Emulator) a cute backronym https://www.winehq.org/about https://www.winehq.org/about states that it was an acronym for "Wine Is Not an Emulator", and it isn't now, the opposite of what you claim. (I don't really believe winehq, but I can't find the original discussion on newsgroup archives.)
- greggyb 2y ago
  > And this image does not depict a pipe In fact, it does. Literally, "This is not a pipe," because an image of a pipe is not a pipe. From the artist: > The famous pipe. How people reproached me for it! And yet, could you stuff my pipe? No, it's just a representation, is it not? So if I had written on my picture "This is a pipe", I'd have been lying! Sourced from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images

And this image does not depict a pipe: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/MagrittePipe.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/MagrittePipe.... Giving WINE (originally WINdows Emulator) a cute backronym does not change the definition of the word emulator or whether Wine is one. Please check your favorite dictionaries for that.

fsflover 2y ago
It actually doesn't do emulation but API AFAIK.
- pjc50 2y ago
  Correct - the instructions in the Windows PE executable run natively. WINE provides a PE loader for exe and dll files (https://github.com/wine-mirror/wine/blob/master/dlls/ntdll/loader.c https://github.com/wine-mirror/wine/blob/master/dlls/ntdll/l...) and provides its own version of the API (user32.dll, kernel32.dll etc)
- bmacho 2y ago
  Doing windows API is emulating windows > In computing, an emulator is hardware or software that enables one computer system (called the host) to behave like another computer system (called the guest). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulator
  - fsflover 2y ago
    Interesting. However WINE is not in this list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_system_emulators https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_system_emul...
    - jeffalyanak 2y ago
      It's an OS or API emulator, not a computer system emulator. It's a different scope, but still fits the definition of an emulator.
      - bmacho 2y ago
        DOSBox is on the page, at [0]. IMO Wine should be on the page as well. [0] : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_system_emulators#x86_platforms_(32-bit_PC_and_compatible_hardware) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_system_emul...
bmacho 2y ago
> Giving WINE (originally WINdows Emulator) a cute backronym https://www.winehq.org/about https://www.winehq.org/about states that it was an acronym for "Wine Is Not an Emulator", and it isn't now, the opposite of what you claim. (I don't really believe winehq, but I can't find the original discussion on newsgroup archives.)
greggyb 2y ago
> And this image does not depict a pipe In fact, it does. Literally, "This is not a pipe," because an image of a pipe is not a pipe. From the artist: > The famous pipe. How people reproached me for it! And yet, could you stuff my pipe? No, it's just a representation, is it not? So if I had written on my picture "This is a pipe", I'd have been lying! Sourced from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images