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Let chat more. I'm almost ready to raise some seed money, hire a second staff dev or find a cofounder, and I'm looking for people that care deeply about the spa

Let chat more. I'm almost ready to raise some seed money, hire a second staff dev or find a cofounder, and I'm looking for people that care deeply about the space. It's only been during the last few months that I decided to go all in on the project, so this is still just the first few pages of a new chapter in the project's history. (I should also mention that if you're a commercial entity relying on ArchiveBox, you can hire us for dedicated support and uptime guarantees. We have a closed source fork that has a much better test suite and lots of other goodies)

giancarlostoro 2y ago
Do you guys have a Discord by chance? I have a close friend who is insanely passionate about archiving, he has a personal instance of archivebox, and is working on a Video Downloading project as well. He has used it almost everyday and archived thousands of news articles over years. He's aware of a lot of the nuances.
- nikisweeting 2y ago
  We have a Zulip which is similar to discord (but self hosted and it has better threading): https://zulip.archivebox.io https://zulip.archivebox.io
nyx 2y ago
It looks like you're doing great work here, thanks a bunch; looking forward to seeing this project develop. Selling custom integrations, managed instances, white-glove support with an SLA, and so on seems like a reasonable funding model for a project based on an open-source, self-hostable platform. But I'm a little disheartened to read that you're maintaining a closed fork with "goodies" in it. How do you decide which features (better test suite?) end up in the non-libre, payware fork of your software? If someone contributed a feature to the open-source version that already exists in the payware version, would you allow it to be merged or would you refuse the pull request?
- nikisweeting 2y ago
  The idea with the plugin system is that plugins are just git repos containing <pluginname>/__init__.py, and you can add any set of git repo plugins you want to your instance. The marketplace will work by showing all git repos tagged with the "archivebox" tag on github. My approval is only needed for PRs to the archivebox core engine. More info on free vs paid + reasoning why it's not all open source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41863539 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41863539
manofmanysmiles 2y ago
I love this project. I "independently" "invented" it in my head the other day, and happy to see it already exists! I'd love to see blockchain proof/notary support. The ability to say "content matching this hash existed at this time. I'm exceptionally busy now but that being said, I may choose to contribute nonetheless. I'd love to connect directly, and will connect to the Zulip instance later. If we align on values, I may be able to connect you with some cash. People often call me an "anarchist" or "libertarian", though I'm just me, not labels necessary.
- nophunphil 2y ago
  Can you please explain what you mean by “blockchain proof/notary support”?
  - manofmanysmiles 2y ago
    Motivation: Have evidence that some content existed at a particular time. For example, let's say a major website publishes an article, and later they remove it, and there is no record of it ever existing. If I host an ArchiveBox, I can look at it and see "Oh here is that article. Looks line it was published after all." However, why should you believe me I didn't just make it up? If when I initially archived it, I computed a cryptographic hash of the content and posted that on a blockchain, then at a future date I can at least claim "As of block N, approximately corresponding to this time UTC, content that hashes to this hash exited." If multiple unrelated parties also make the same claim, it is stronger evidence. Is this sufficient explanation? I can expand on this more later.
    - jazzyjackson 2y ago
      There's no reason to believe that the hashed and timestamped content was hosted at a particular domain, however (unless the content was signed by the author of course, then there's no Blockchain necessary). sure multiple peers could make some attestation that they saw it at that URL, but then you're back at square one of the reputation problem Internet archive as an institution with a reputation that holds up to a judge is actually more valuable than a cryptographic proof that x bytes existed at y time
bigiain 2y ago
"I too would like commit access to your promising looking project's git repo and CI/CD pipeline. Thanks, Jia Tan"
- msephton 2y ago
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giancarlostoro 2y ago

Do you guys have a Discord by chance? I have a close friend who is insanely passionate about archiving, he has a personal instance of archivebox, and is working on a Video Downloading project as well. He has used it almost everyday and archived thousands of news articles over years. He's aware of a lot of the nuances.

nikisweeting 2y ago
We have a Zulip which is similar to discord (but self hosted and it has better threading): https://zulip.archivebox.io https://zulip.archivebox.io

nyx 2y ago

It looks like you're doing great work here, thanks a bunch; looking forward to seeing this project develop. Selling custom integrations, managed instances, white-glove support with an SLA, and so on seems like a reasonable funding model for a project based on an open-source, self-hostable platform. But I'm a little disheartened to read that you're maintaining a closed fork with "goodies" in it. How do you decide which features (better test suite?) end up in the non-libre, payware fork of your software? If someone contributed a feature to the open-source version that already exists in the payware version, would you allow it to be merged or would you refuse the pull request?

nikisweeting 2y ago
The idea with the plugin system is that plugins are just git repos containing <pluginname>/__init__.py, and you can add any set of git repo plugins you want to your instance. The marketplace will work by showing all git repos tagged with the "archivebox" tag on github. My approval is only needed for PRs to the archivebox core engine. More info on free vs paid + reasoning why it's not all open source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41863539 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41863539

manofmanysmiles 2y ago

I love this project. I "independently" "invented" it in my head the other day, and happy to see it already exists! I'd love to see blockchain proof/notary support. The ability to say "content matching this hash existed at this time. I'm exceptionally busy now but that being said, I may choose to contribute nonetheless. I'd love to connect directly, and will connect to the Zulip instance later. If we align on values, I may be able to connect you with some cash. People often call me an "anarchist" or "libertarian", though I'm just me, not labels necessary.

nophunphil 2y ago
Can you please explain what you mean by “blockchain proof/notary support”?
- manofmanysmiles 2y ago
  Motivation: Have evidence that some content existed at a particular time. For example, let's say a major website publishes an article, and later they remove it, and there is no record of it ever existing. If I host an ArchiveBox, I can look at it and see "Oh here is that article. Looks line it was published after all." However, why should you believe me I didn't just make it up? If when I initially archived it, I computed a cryptographic hash of the content and posted that on a blockchain, then at a future date I can at least claim "As of block N, approximately corresponding to this time UTC, content that hashes to this hash exited." If multiple unrelated parties also make the same claim, it is stronger evidence. Is this sufficient explanation? I can expand on this more later.
  - jazzyjackson 2y ago
    There's no reason to believe that the hashed and timestamped content was hosted at a particular domain, however (unless the content was signed by the author of course, then there's no Blockchain necessary). sure multiple peers could make some attestation that they saw it at that URL, but then you're back at square one of the reputation problem Internet archive as an institution with a reputation that holds up to a judge is actually more valuable than a cryptographic proof that x bytes existed at y time

bigiain 2y ago

"I too would like commit access to your promising looking project's git repo and CI/CD pipeline. Thanks, Jia Tan"

msephton 2y ago
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