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This is outdated. The M3 Max is right there with Intel i9 on singlethreaded PassMark, and does so while pulling a lot less power.
by FeepingCreature 2y ago
This is outdated. The M3 Max is right there with Intel i9 on singlethreaded PassMark, and does so while pulling a lot less power.
- bhouston 2y agoAnd M4 is even faster. Intel i9: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i9-13900ks https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i9-13900... M4: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8224953 https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8224953
- leptons 2y agoM4 isn't even close to the highest performing x86 CPUs. Apple doesn't have anything close. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html Search for "M4", it's not anywhere near the top of the list.
- bhouston 2y agoYou are showing multi-core benchmarks and it is correct the M4 does not have many cores. I was referring primarily to single-threaded performance. And remember that the only scores you see for M4 CPUs in the CPUBenchmark website from iPads which are definitely thermal constrained. The MacBook benchmarks are not yet available on this benchmark - they will exceed the performance then of the M3 scores I suspect: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
- leptons 2y agoThat's nice and all but my original comment was specifically about "processing power of the highest-end x86 chips" far exceeding that of any ARM CPU.
- bhouston 2y ago> That's nice and all but my original comment was specifically about "processing power of the highest-end x86 chips" far exceeding that of any ARM CPU. That wasn't the direction I was thinking of going in, but if you want to go in multi-threaded benchmarks, you need to include the Ampere and Graviton CPUs. Those are designed for hyperscalers and then you can make a fair comparison. They are not listed on your cpubenchmark website. For example this multithreaded score from Graviton 4, https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/7980680 https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/7980680, is better than all of the consumer Intel and AMD CPUs listed on Geekbench in their chart here: https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks. And better than AMD's latest hyperscaler CPU's multicore benchmark: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-epyc-9654 https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-epyc-9654 It is too bad that these Graviton CPUs are not listed on cpubenchmarks. It is true that CPUBenchmarks and Geekbench test CPUs differently so it would be nice to see both benchmark results.
- leptons 2y agoYou're the one who is mistaken. I was not talking about i9s, I specifically stated I'm talking about "the highest-end x86 chips", like Threadripper. Nothing Apple has can compete on that scale, M3 and M4 are not even close to the top. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
- FeepingCreature 2y agoYes correct, the Apple chips are not close to a uh data center CPU with 192 threads. (But neither is whatever you have under your desk.)
- leptons 2y agoYou don't have any idea what computing resources I have, so don't act like you do.
- FeepingCreature 2y agoAh yes the two types of computers, "ipad" and "rack mount".