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Agree with author that the plane seems to be the only place where it is socially acceptable to wear the skimask. My wife still makes fun of me when I'm working

Agree with author that the plane seems to be the only place where it is socially acceptable to wear the skimask. My wife still makes fun of me when I'm working at home with Vision Pro - I wouldn't wear it out in public. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41836437 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41836437

throwaway48476 2y ago
I saw someone parked in their car wearing one.
- volemo 2y ago
  At least they were parked.
ljf 2y ago
It is also one of the few public places to 'safely' do it. Would you feel comfortable wearing one and limiting your awareness of your surroundings on a public bus? In a coffee shop? Sitting outside a coffee shop? In a park? In a pub? And also your answers may be yes if you are male, but I can imagine in the current world we live in a lot of women would feel potentially at risk if they were wearing these in public.
- tesch1 2y ago
  Train travel is great with one too.
  - prmoustache 2y ago
    You have a whole screen (large windows) at the side of your seat with landscape and stuff to actually enjoy on a train.
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    - dagmx 2y ago
      You assume that most train rides offer a good view, and a view that the commuter would find novel. If I’m taking a commuter train every day , my view is not something great. Most of the time it’s rundown houses, tunnels or fences. This has been my experience in the UK, US and Canada. If I’m taking a more long distance train, you assume I’m sat on the side with a view. Ever taken a mountain train? One side just gets rocks wizzing by. You also assume they’re travelling in weather and a time of day that affords them a good view. Traveling at night? Traveling in misty weather? And all that aside, you assume they’d prefer to look at the same things you do.
      - prmoustache 2y ago
        I guess that is based on experience as I have commuted in the swiss alps for years by train. There is even a tunnel when you are comming from Freiburg in direction of Lausanne/Geneva where you can count down the exact moment the tourists will let escape a collective woooaaaaah once the train exit the tunnel to a majestic view of Lake of Geneva with the alps and the Mont Blanc in the background. There are some views you never get tired of looking at, especially as seasons, weather, clouds and time of the day makes it an ever changing postcard. All in all in most of europe the trains usually offer nice views and I often find myself daydreaming about climbing that dirt trail on the left with my bike, riding my motorbike on that twisty road on the right side a few minutes later and what kind of life was it living 500 years ago in the old castle I can see here.
        dagmx 2y ago
        This feels like you’re judging others for not being fortunate enough to live in the same place you do. It’s a bit narcissistic of a viewpoint imho.
        pests 2y ago
        At the same time, I feel you are being dismissive of the beauty around us every day. I used to bus the same route every day for months; and every day I would look out my window and just take it in. People watching, seeing buildings grow under construction, the changing of the trees. The sunset is always beautiful, imo. Why must we always escape?
baxtr 2y ago
Can you elaborate on the working part? I tested the device in an Apple Store and was blown away by the experience. Such an amazing tool to explore, enjoy and relax. The work part though? I had the same feeling as with the iPad early on. I need a keyboard and a mouse to be productive.
- nine_k 2y ago
  I don't see why won't you be able use a keyboard if you can touch-type. I can imagine that a CAD or an animation app could make great use of the 3D views, a mouse for precise coordinate input, and a keyboard for numeric and text input. I wonder how soon will Maya or CATIA offer good enough integration. Maybe they already offer it at the high end.
  - DidYaWipe 2y ago
    They could if the Vision Pro had a video input.
  - alt227 2y ago
    >if you can touch-type And for the majority of us that cant?
- theturtletalks 2y ago
  Apple Vision Pro can recognize a Macbook and turn that screen into the "theater" screen so you can continue using your Macbook as is with the keyboard and trackpad. There was even a Youtuber that got annoyed of the black screen on the Macbook when doing this that he removed the screen from a Macbook altogether[0]. 0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUa_pPUbpGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUa_pPUbpGQ
- Terretta 2y ago
  > The work part though? I had the same feeling as with the iPad early on. I need a keyboard and a mouse to be productive. Both my iPad Pro and my Vision Pro have a keyboard and trackpad: - The iPad Pro of course uses the excellent Magic Keyboard. - The Vision Pro uses an Apple keyboard w/o numpad side by side with the Magic Trackpad, in a custom tray to hold both. (Make sure that your carryon's front pocket can hold the full tray.) For sure if I thought I could only do work on a MacBook not an iPad Pro (what most people seem to think, insisting iPad is a consumption device), then I definitely couldn't work on a Vision Pro. But once you've figured out how to code (e.g. VSCode using blink code, or Koder, Working Copy, Textastic, etc.), do graphic design (e.g. Affinity suite), or run Office on an iPad (Teams, Outlook, Word, PowerPoint, Excel), the Vision Pro does those too but with "all the app windows at once" (ofc, iPad Pro 13" makes excellent use of Stage Manager for window groups). All that said, I haven't felt a burden to pull AVP out on the plane. iPad Pro 13" HDR with AirPods Pro USB-C using Spatial Audio that anchors to your iPad screen seem more than enough. Especially since you can share audio with a seat mate who also has AirPods, and both watch the same movie together. Not often talked about: for doing real work, do consider a fresh glasses prescription and the Zeiss add-ins. To keep windows rectangular instead of trapezoid, insist you're under 40 regardless of your age, otherwise Zeiss do a stealth "progressive" that warps window sizes.
cchi_co 2y ago
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FollowingTheDao 2y ago
"It’s a fantastic device to travel with—Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. " Lord forgive you have a new unexpected experience while traveling or expose yourself to the underclasses or subject yourself to the shtty social environment you helped create...

throwaway48476 2y ago

I saw someone parked in their car wearing one.

volemo 2y ago
At least they were parked.

ljf 2y ago

It is also one of the few public places to 'safely' do it. Would you feel comfortable wearing one and limiting your awareness of your surroundings on a public bus? In a coffee shop? Sitting outside a coffee shop? In a park? In a pub? And also your answers may be yes if you are male, but I can imagine in the current world we live in a lot of women would feel potentially at risk if they were wearing these in public.

tesch1 2y ago
Train travel is great with one too.
- prmoustache 2y ago
  You have a whole screen (large windows) at the side of your seat with landscape and stuff to actually enjoy on a train.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
  - dagmx 2y ago
    You assume that most train rides offer a good view, and a view that the commuter would find novel. If I’m taking a commuter train every day , my view is not something great. Most of the time it’s rundown houses, tunnels or fences. This has been my experience in the UK, US and Canada. If I’m taking a more long distance train, you assume I’m sat on the side with a view. Ever taken a mountain train? One side just gets rocks wizzing by. You also assume they’re travelling in weather and a time of day that affords them a good view. Traveling at night? Traveling in misty weather? And all that aside, you assume they’d prefer to look at the same things you do.
    - prmoustache 2y ago
      I guess that is based on experience as I have commuted in the swiss alps for years by train. There is even a tunnel when you are comming from Freiburg in direction of Lausanne/Geneva where you can count down the exact moment the tourists will let escape a collective woooaaaaah once the train exit the tunnel to a majestic view of Lake of Geneva with the alps and the Mont Blanc in the background. There are some views you never get tired of looking at, especially as seasons, weather, clouds and time of the day makes it an ever changing postcard. All in all in most of europe the trains usually offer nice views and I often find myself daydreaming about climbing that dirt trail on the left with my bike, riding my motorbike on that twisty road on the right side a few minutes later and what kind of life was it living 500 years ago in the old castle I can see here.
      - dagmx 2y ago
        This feels like you’re judging others for not being fortunate enough to live in the same place you do. It’s a bit narcissistic of a viewpoint imho.
        pests 2y ago
        At the same time, I feel you are being dismissive of the beauty around us every day. I used to bus the same route every day for months; and every day I would look out my window and just take it in. People watching, seeing buildings grow under construction, the changing of the trees. The sunset is always beautiful, imo. Why must we always escape?

baxtr 2y ago

Can you elaborate on the working part? I tested the device in an Apple Store and was blown away by the experience. Such an amazing tool to explore, enjoy and relax. The work part though? I had the same feeling as with the iPad early on. I need a keyboard and a mouse to be productive.

nine_k 2y ago
I don't see why won't you be able use a keyboard if you can touch-type. I can imagine that a CAD or an animation app could make great use of the 3D views, a mouse for precise coordinate input, and a keyboard for numeric and text input. I wonder how soon will Maya or CATIA offer good enough integration. Maybe they already offer it at the high end.
- DidYaWipe 2y ago
  They could if the Vision Pro had a video input.
- alt227 2y ago
  >if you can touch-type And for the majority of us that cant?
theturtletalks 2y ago
Apple Vision Pro can recognize a Macbook and turn that screen into the "theater" screen so you can continue using your Macbook as is with the keyboard and trackpad. There was even a Youtuber that got annoyed of the black screen on the Macbook when doing this that he removed the screen from a Macbook altogether[0]. 0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUa_pPUbpGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUa_pPUbpGQ
Terretta 2y ago
> The work part though? I had the same feeling as with the iPad early on. I need a keyboard and a mouse to be productive. Both my iPad Pro and my Vision Pro have a keyboard and trackpad: - The iPad Pro of course uses the excellent Magic Keyboard. - The Vision Pro uses an Apple keyboard w/o numpad side by side with the Magic Trackpad, in a custom tray to hold both. (Make sure that your carryon's front pocket can hold the full tray.) For sure if I thought I could only do work on a MacBook not an iPad Pro (what most people seem to think, insisting iPad is a consumption device), then I definitely couldn't work on a Vision Pro. But once you've figured out how to code (e.g. VSCode using blink code, or Koder, Working Copy, Textastic, etc.), do graphic design (e.g. Affinity suite), or run Office on an iPad (Teams, Outlook, Word, PowerPoint, Excel), the Vision Pro does those too but with "all the app windows at once" (ofc, iPad Pro 13" makes excellent use of Stage Manager for window groups). All that said, I haven't felt a burden to pull AVP out on the plane. iPad Pro 13" HDR with AirPods Pro USB-C using Spatial Audio that anchors to your iPad screen seem more than enough. Especially since you can share audio with a seat mate who also has AirPods, and both watch the same movie together. Not often talked about: for doing real work, do consider a fresh glasses prescription and the Zeiss add-ins. To keep windows rectangular instead of trapezoid, insist you're under 40 regardless of your age, otherwise Zeiss do a stealth "progressive" that warps window sizes.

cchi_co 2y ago

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FollowingTheDao 2y ago

"It’s a fantastic device to travel with—Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. " Lord forgive you have a new unexpected experience while traveling or expose yourself to the underclasses or subject yourself to the shtty social environment you helped create...