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I don't think they censor anything, strictly archiving. Do you know of any instance in which they censored a site?

by chirau 2y ago

throwaway48476 2y ago
http://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/twitter.com/taylorlorenz http://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/twitter.com/taylo... For one. I'm just curious what their policy is.
- lukas099 2y ago
  I only know what I just read on wikipedia about her, but it seems like she has been heavily doxxed — I'm guessing she requested this information about herself be excluded? If so, I'm not sure I'd classify that as censorship.
  - throwaway48476 2y ago
    It's her own tweets, not dox.
    - lukas099 2y ago
      Not dox but I was thinking there could be old materials in there that people were using to dox her. Idk, why else would they remove it?
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- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  The law trumps their policy, to be blunt. They can't afford legal disputes so complying is the best thing they can do. They're still involved in legal shit for "giving away" ebooks too easily during the pandemic.
edgineer 2y ago
Kiwi farms
- mcpar-land 2y ago
  good
  - Cthulhu_ 2y ago
    An argument can be made that they should retain a copy for future lawsuits / investigations, but... kiwi farms won't have anything public, and I hope that law enforcement has their private archive where they gather everything.
- nikisweeting 2y ago
  There are people that maintain "non-public archives" of stuff like that for litigation, long-term archival storage (think sealed boxes intended for future generations of historians. (Libraries, laywers, journalists can run their own WebRecorder, Perma.cc, ArchiveBox, etc. instances) I think that's a reasonable middle ground, we don't necessarily need every single piece of heinous content mirrored for free access 24/7 the moment it appears anywhere on the internet, as long as there is some historic record somewhere that's probably ok.
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- DrillShopper 2y ago
  Nah, we don't need to archive their targeted harassment.
tossit444 2y ago
https://archive.fo/p8DmQ https://archive.fo/p8DmQ
teddyh 2y ago
I take it you’ve never encountered the dreaded message, “The item is not available due to issues with the item's content”? There was a news item here on HN about something available on the Internet Archive: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16725526 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16725526> This is now gone from IA. Old page with links to IA which are no longer working: <https://web.archive.org/web/20180331224513/http://profileengine.com/groups/profile/433187197/fek-duan https://web.archive.org/web/20180331224513/http://profileeng...>

I don't think they censor anything, strictly archiving. Do you know of any instance in which they censored a site?

by chirau 2y ago

I don't think they censor anything, strictly archiving. Do you know of any instance in which they censored a site?

http://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/twitter.com/taylorlorenz http://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/twitter.com/taylo... For one. I'm just curious what their policy is.

lukas099 2y ago
I only know what I just read on wikipedia about her, but it seems like she has been heavily doxxed — I'm guessing she requested this information about herself be excluded? If so, I'm not sure I'd classify that as censorship.
- throwaway48476 2y ago
  It's her own tweets, not dox.
  - lukas099 2y ago
    Not dox but I was thinking there could be old materials in there that people were using to dox her. Idk, why else would they remove it?
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
Cthulhu_ 2y ago
The law trumps their policy, to be blunt. They can't afford legal disputes so complying is the best thing they can do. They're still involved in legal shit for "giving away" ebooks too easily during the pandemic.

edgineer 2y ago

Kiwi farms

mcpar-land 2y ago
good
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  An argument can be made that they should retain a copy for future lawsuits / investigations, but... kiwi farms won't have anything public, and I hope that law enforcement has their private archive where they gather everything.
nikisweeting 2y ago
There are people that maintain "non-public archives" of stuff like that for litigation, long-term archival storage (think sealed boxes intended for future generations of historians. (Libraries, laywers, journalists can run their own WebRecorder, Perma.cc, ArchiveBox, etc. instances) I think that's a reasonable middle ground, we don't necessarily need every single piece of heinous content mirrored for free access 24/7 the moment it appears anywhere on the internet, as long as there is some historic record somewhere that's probably ok.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
DrillShopper 2y ago
Nah, we don't need to archive their targeted harassment.

tossit444 2y ago

https://archive.fo/p8DmQ https://archive.fo/p8DmQ

teddyh 2y ago

I take it you’ve never encountered the dreaded message, “The item is not available due to issues with the item's content”? There was a news item here on HN about something available on the Internet Archive: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16725526 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16725526> This is now gone from IA. Old page with links to IA which are no longer working: <https://web.archive.org/web/20180331224513/http://profileengine.com/groups/profile/433187197/fek-duan https://web.archive.org/web/20180331224513/http://profileeng...>