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I expect it has more to do with Americans’ high level of obesity and other poor lifestyle factors.

axpvms 2y ago
Australians are not exactly a svelte lot either, ranking 10th in the OECD countries for obesity (US is the third), and on par with the UK.
- danielbln 2y ago
  Yeah, Ozzies also drink like fish, at least when I was living there. Good lord, so much boozing.
- apwell23 2y ago
  less likely to die from drug overdoses. Older age groups are also less likely to die from chronic diseases such as circulatory problems and heart disease. Cancer mortality rates are lower in Australia than they are in all other Anglophone countries, except among American men aged over 65. And Australians are also less likely to die in road accidents than other countries So why are they getting less chronic diseases despite being equally obese.
Pikamander2 2y ago
Obesity's definitely a factor, but other developed countries haven't seen the same level of stagnation despite their own skyrocketing obesity rates. For that matter, Americans also smoke less compared to most of Europe. There's likely at least one other major factor, and I would assume that it's some variation of "inability to access high-quality care for financial reasons" given how much of a wealth disparity there is in various healthcare outcomes.
- apwell23 2y ago
  Older age groups are also less likely to die from chronic diseases such as circulatory problems and heart disease. Cancer mortality rates are lower in Australia than they are in all other Anglophone countries So you get less cancer because you have 'access high quality healthcare' ? how does that work? wealth disparity there is in various healthcare outcomes. Wealthy have access to good food. have less stress and engage in mental and physical recreation more and ofcourse regular screenings. Why would it depend just on one factor like hospital access?
  - zwirbl 2y ago
    Cancer mortality is not the same as incidence, you can plausibly have more cancer while still having a lower mortality
  - verzali 2y ago
    Plausibly you can get less cancer by encouraging people to stop smoking, drink less, be less exposured to known carcinogens (either by awareness or regulation). A good healthcare system can also mean you catch cancers early or treat them earlier.

Australians are not exactly a svelte lot either, ranking 10th in the OECD countries for obesity (US is the third), and on par with the UK.

danielbln 2y ago
Yeah, Ozzies also drink like fish, at least when I was living there. Good lord, so much boozing.
apwell23 2y ago
less likely to die from drug overdoses. Older age groups are also less likely to die from chronic diseases such as circulatory problems and heart disease. Cancer mortality rates are lower in Australia than they are in all other Anglophone countries, except among American men aged over 65. And Australians are also less likely to die in road accidents than other countries So why are they getting less chronic diseases despite being equally obese.

Pikamander2 2y ago

Obesity's definitely a factor, but other developed countries haven't seen the same level of stagnation despite their own skyrocketing obesity rates. For that matter, Americans also smoke less compared to most of Europe. There's likely at least one other major factor, and I would assume that it's some variation of "inability to access high-quality care for financial reasons" given how much of a wealth disparity there is in various healthcare outcomes.

apwell23 2y ago
Older age groups are also less likely to die from chronic diseases such as circulatory problems and heart disease. Cancer mortality rates are lower in Australia than they are in all other Anglophone countries So you get less cancer because you have 'access high quality healthcare' ? how does that work? wealth disparity there is in various healthcare outcomes. Wealthy have access to good food. have less stress and engage in mental and physical recreation more and ofcourse regular screenings. Why would it depend just on one factor like hospital access?
- zwirbl 2y ago
  Cancer mortality is not the same as incidence, you can plausibly have more cancer while still having a lower mortality
- verzali 2y ago
  Plausibly you can get less cancer by encouraging people to stop smoking, drink less, be less exposured to known carcinogens (either by awareness or regulation). A good healthcare system can also mean you catch cancers early or treat them earlier.