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Idk I just set up both - email&password which live in my password manager and then passkeys for convenience - I can just hit a button without thinking and I’m i

Idk I just set up both - email&password which live in my password manager and then passkeys for convenience - I can just hit a button without thinking and I’m in. It’s probably different for everyone but in case I have strictly separate devices- so a laptop where I have my work accounts and a desktop for games and some personal stuff. I don’t really use anything on a regular basis that needs accounts on my personal devices, but that’s probably very weird nowadays…

sph 2y ago
I already hit a button (the Bitwarden icon in my browser toolbar) so I do not see what passkeys buy me, except a terrible hassle the day I want to change password manager. It is a solution designed to lock people in the Apple/Google walled gardens, and I don't see why everybody is pushing for it.
- izacus 2y ago
  Passkeys work fine with password managers like 1Password, KeePassXC, Bitwarden and others, why do you keep repeating this walled garden shtick? They're literally a cryptostring stored in your password manager just like your other passwords.
  - troupo 2y ago
    > They're literally a cryptostring stored in your password manager just like your other passwords. So I can copy paste them somewhere or move them around without "Credential Exchange Protocol (CXP) and Credential Exchange Format (CXF)"?
    - rcxdude 2y ago
      With Keepass you can, at least. Other ones not so much.
    - izacus 2y ago
      You can copy paste them using those formats. What are you arguing about here actually?
      - FireBeyond 2y ago
        How does one get a passkey from iCloud into one of these formats? "You can't take your passkeys from Apple Passwords" s/iCloud/1Password? "There's not a way to import/export passkeys" s/iCloud/Google? So "you can copy paste them using those formats, if you can get them into those formats in the first place".
        lxgr 2y ago
        Apple actually does allow airdropping passkeys across devices and iCloud users! It’s clearly not (just) a security but a lock-in feature.
  - lxgr 2y ago
    Have you ever migrated one across password managers yourself? I tried; it currently seems impossible.

sph 2y ago

I already hit a button (the Bitwarden icon in my browser toolbar) so I do not see what passkeys buy me, except a terrible hassle the day I want to change password manager. It is a solution designed to lock people in the Apple/Google walled gardens, and I don't see why everybody is pushing for it.

izacus 2y ago
Passkeys work fine with password managers like 1Password, KeePassXC, Bitwarden and others, why do you keep repeating this walled garden shtick? They're literally a cryptostring stored in your password manager just like your other passwords.
- troupo 2y ago
  > They're literally a cryptostring stored in your password manager just like your other passwords. So I can copy paste them somewhere or move them around without "Credential Exchange Protocol (CXP) and Credential Exchange Format (CXF)"?
  - rcxdude 2y ago
    With Keepass you can, at least. Other ones not so much.
  - izacus 2y ago
    You can copy paste them using those formats. What are you arguing about here actually?
    - FireBeyond 2y ago
      How does one get a passkey from iCloud into one of these formats? "You can't take your passkeys from Apple Passwords" s/iCloud/1Password? "There's not a way to import/export passkeys" s/iCloud/Google? So "you can copy paste them using those formats, if you can get them into those formats in the first place".
      - lxgr 2y ago
        Apple actually does allow airdropping passkeys across devices and iCloud users! It’s clearly not (just) a security but a lock-in feature.
- lxgr 2y ago
  Have you ever migrated one across password managers yourself? I tried; it currently seems impossible.