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I’m curious how many of those 175M know they are using passkeys, and how things go over the next several years as they upgrade to new devices. I have a feeling

I’m curious how many of those 175M know they are using passkeys, and how things go over the next several years as they upgrade to new devices. I have a feeling a lot of trust is being placed in systems the users don’t even know exist. As far as being able to login 6x faster, is this a big deal? I can’t remember the last time I had to login to Amazon. It feels like it’s been years.

nytesky 2y ago
On iPhones, aren’t the passkeys stored in iCloud Keychain and managed with the nifty passwords app (I’m happy to have a real interface finally). I assume similar cloud storage for android phones?
- al_borland 2y ago
  I’m thinking if someone decides to change browsers, or changes ecosystems. Say they have all their passkeys in Apple Passwords, then they move to Android. Or they have everything in Chrome, then move away from Android and don’t bother downloading chrome and logging into their existing account. If the user doesn’t understand what this stuff is, why would they think to account for it during a migration? I have a friend who just last year was talking about getting a new phone number with his new phone. My first thought was, “won’t that break all your 2FA and lock you out of your bank and a bunch of other stuff?” He had no idea and didn’t think he had any of it, but most of that was stuff I didn’t opt into, but simply exists now. I’m not sure how he couldn’t have any of it. He ended up not doing it, but I think someone could very easily screw themselves.
  - acdha 2y ago
    Most services I’ve seen do not make passkeys an all or nothing proposition so they’d likely still be able to use a password reset + SMS challenge, but I think the concern is real about switching between platforms. They’ve promised portability but implementations are still AWOL.
Schiendelman 2y ago
I think almost any device that uses passkeys today has continuity to device upgrades. Perhaps if someone changes ecosystem they'll have to create a new passkey, but they'll do that with a OTP via email, likely.
out-of-ideas 2y ago
i'm also curious if the 6x faster is from the lack of having to click on pictures of traffic lights, bicycles, ect

nytesky 2y ago

On iPhones, aren’t the passkeys stored in iCloud Keychain and managed with the nifty passwords app (I’m happy to have a real interface finally). I assume similar cloud storage for android phones?

al_borland 2y ago
I’m thinking if someone decides to change browsers, or changes ecosystems. Say they have all their passkeys in Apple Passwords, then they move to Android. Or they have everything in Chrome, then move away from Android and don’t bother downloading chrome and logging into their existing account. If the user doesn’t understand what this stuff is, why would they think to account for it during a migration? I have a friend who just last year was talking about getting a new phone number with his new phone. My first thought was, “won’t that break all your 2FA and lock you out of your bank and a bunch of other stuff?” He had no idea and didn’t think he had any of it, but most of that was stuff I didn’t opt into, but simply exists now. I’m not sure how he couldn’t have any of it. He ended up not doing it, but I think someone could very easily screw themselves.
- acdha 2y ago
  Most services I’ve seen do not make passkeys an all or nothing proposition so they’d likely still be able to use a password reset + SMS challenge, but I think the concern is real about switching between platforms. They’ve promised portability but implementations are still AWOL.

Schiendelman 2y ago

I think almost any device that uses passkeys today has continuity to device upgrades. Perhaps if someone changes ecosystem they'll have to create a new passkey, but they'll do that with a OTP via email, likely.

out-of-ideas 2y ago

i'm also curious if the 6x faster is from the lack of having to click on pictures of traffic lights, bicycles, ect