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That’s a bizarre hill to die on, I see all kinds of larger people survive into their 90s when I was living near and volunteering at a nursing home as a teenager
by EasyMark 2y ago
That’s a bizarre hill to die on, I see all kinds of larger people survive into their 90s when I was living near and volunteering at a nursing home as a teenager
- WillPostForFood 2y agoI see all kinds of larger people survive into their 90s So dangerous to extrapolate from anecdotal observation like this. If I see old people smoking, doesn't mean smoking is safe. It just means it doesn't kill at 100% effectiveness.
- koolba 2y ago> It just means it doesn't kill at 100% effectiveness. If you wait long enough, everything has a 100% effectiveness.
- rKarpinski 2y agoif you wait long enough, obesity actually becomes a protective factor for serious issues; like Falling & Sarcopenia.
- dyauspitr 2y agoI see “plenty” of life long smokers making it to their 80s and 90s too, that doesn’t mean it didn’t take out 90% of them along the way.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoGood example of how people overestimate the impact of these things. Closer to 10% of smokers get lung cancer.
- dyauspitr 2y agoBut COPD, Emphysema and cardio vascular issues also affect smokers, it’s not just lung cancer.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoSure.but I don't think it escalates to a 90% death rate
- baueric 2y agoIt's actually a 100% death rate as all smokers sure. Jokes aside, your statement doesn't have meaning. Many deaths are not attributable to a single cause. However, it's been studies endlessly and is well accepted that smoking increases all-cause mortality.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoIm not arguing against that at all. I was making a point about the magnitude of that impact. People tend to over-estimate the impact of both smoking and obesity.
- renewiltord 2y agoThat’s the funny thing: at homes and nursing homes all around America you will find WW2 veterans. One could conclude that WW2 wasn’t dangerous from that, I suppose.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoYou could conclude that WW2 wasnt 100% fatal. Actual death rates was about 1 in 40, ie 2.5% Depending on your priors, This may be a lot or not
- kaibee 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias