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> I dare you to find one word on that site that encourages anything unethical, unsafe, or illegal. Oh c'mon. Let's not get there. As someone in the gun communi

> I dare you to find one word on that site that encourages anything unethical, unsafe, or illegal. Oh c'mon. Let's not get there. As someone in the gun community you should be more than aware that "ethics" are extremely subjective to one's opinion. There's no global truth for ethics. Respect other's opinion's and you won't be shocked if there's a good reason for this. The good reason is: some people don't actually agree with you.

maratd 14y ago
> There's no global truth for ethics. So it's OK if a moderator on this site deletes your comment because he doesn't agree with it? Your comment contains no profanity or anything that might be construed as obscene. That sort of censorship wouldn't bother you?
- drewrv 14y ago
  Wouldn't bother me, I'd just go somewhere else. Or build my own damn site.
damoncali 14y ago
Let me rephrase. I'd be shocked if there was a good reason for this other than "google doesn't like guns." As for ethics, I would go as far as to say that punching holes in paper from 100 yards away is about as benign an activity as one can imagine. But perhaps environmentalists would take isuse, so I'll retract that as well.
- naner 14y ago
  Aren't there legal hurdles that vary by country and state? Perhaps that's why it is better to have specialists sites (like Gunbroker). That's just a wild-ass-guess. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong.
  - damoncali 14y ago
    I actually have no problem with Ebay's decision. The regulation in firearms sales is indeed complex and uncertain. At the time Ebay dropped gun sales, gun control was a hot topic politically. And online auctions were new enough so that one could imagine ebay getting caught in the middle of something bad. But google is a mystery. Their TOS seem to indicate that they simply have a distaste for the shooting sports industry. But they send me tons of traffic. They could just drop shooting sites from the index. That gives me hope that there is some arcane legal reasoning behind their thoughts, but I suspect it's just a choice they've made, and that they cannot stomach the backlash they would incur by dropping huge legal categories from their results. I would love to hear from someone who has some knowledge on this, as it's been confusing me for years.

maratd 14y ago

> There's no global truth for ethics. So it's OK if a moderator on this site deletes your comment because he doesn't agree with it? Your comment contains no profanity or anything that might be construed as obscene. That sort of censorship wouldn't bother you?

drewrv 14y ago
Wouldn't bother me, I'd just go somewhere else. Or build my own damn site.

damoncali 14y ago

Let me rephrase. I'd be shocked if there was a good reason for this other than "google doesn't like guns." As for ethics, I would go as far as to say that punching holes in paper from 100 yards away is about as benign an activity as one can imagine. But perhaps environmentalists would take isuse, so I'll retract that as well.

naner 14y ago
Aren't there legal hurdles that vary by country and state? Perhaps that's why it is better to have specialists sites (like Gunbroker). That's just a wild-ass-guess. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong.
- damoncali 14y ago
  I actually have no problem with Ebay's decision. The regulation in firearms sales is indeed complex and uncertain. At the time Ebay dropped gun sales, gun control was a hot topic politically. And online auctions were new enough so that one could imagine ebay getting caught in the middle of something bad. But google is a mystery. Their TOS seem to indicate that they simply have a distaste for the shooting sports industry. But they send me tons of traffic. They could just drop shooting sites from the index. That gives me hope that there is some arcane legal reasoning behind their thoughts, but I suspect it's just a choice they've made, and that they cannot stomach the backlash they would incur by dropping huge legal categories from their results. I would love to hear from someone who has some knowledge on this, as it's been confusing me for years.