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Jeff Atwood is a muppet
- FrameCluster 14y agoPage is not loading. If it was about Jeff Php rant, it makes it pretty hilarious.
- btian 14y agoWebsite is down
- xentronium 14y agohttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://marvelley.com/2012/06/30/jeff-atwood-is-a-muppet/&hl=en&prmd=imvns&strip=1 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://... Text cache.
- njloof 14y ago"The most glaring statement in the entire article is this one:" WHICH ONE? WHICH ONE?
- Argorak 14y agotl;dr: author is displeased with Jeffs latest PHP rant and decides that its time for an ad-hominem attack. Rare in actual substance.
- FrameCluster 14y agoyup, i feel the same here, he's angry, and don't say much.
- wulczer 14y agoAll this drama reminds me of this excellent phrase: https://twitter.com/agentdero/status/174965036928868352 https://twitter.com/agentdero/status/174965036928868352 Let's argue about whether Haskell or Clojure is better while somebody else ships products using PHP and duct tape.
- FuzzyDunlop 14y agoI try to make sure anything I talk about is well researched, because an baseless opinion is worthless [...] ... Jeff doesn’t seem to know much about PHP. I’d guess he’s read some posts about it [...] Maybe some actual research would have removed the guesswork from that assertion.
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- tptacek 14y agoI clicked through in the slim hope that this post would be a revelation about Atwood's actual identity (which one? what color?) but, no, it's just pitiful and insulting nerd chest thumping. I hope (a) I've saved others an otherwise irresistible click and (b) that's it's obvious that I flagged.
- spitfire 14y agoFraggles. The conversation over WHICH muppet various tech-celebs might be would be more entertaining than weather they actually are muppets. This is a conversation that needs to be had.
- marvelley 14y agoCome on, the muppet thing is just a bit of reverse linkbait, and should be taken lightheartedly. As for insulting - if anyone has cause for insult, its the hundreds of developers who have spent their time putting together something that Atwood rubbishes on what feels like a weekly basis.
- secoif 14y agoAuthor's primary argument is that Atwood is ignorant of PHP, but provides no evidence author isn't ignorant of everything but PHP. I guess if you've lived in a box your whole life, a slightly bigger box must seem pretty good. Don't knock my box, you should have seen how small the last one was.
- Pewpewarrows 14y agoIf you're going to write an article going after Jeff Atwood for criticizing PHP, you probably shouldn't host it on a poorly-written PHP website that can't establish a database connection. You're not helping your case.
- marvelley 14y agoHeh, yeah, not the best. But my lack of investment in a decent server would be a problem regardless of my choice of blog software ;)
- rsanchez1 14y agoWell, somebody is starving for attention.
- herval 14y agoA man criticizes a technology. You spend your time not only criticizing a man, but self-promoting in search of thumbs-ups. Way to go, Craig... You're a muppet.
- slyphon 14y agoThis idiot just proves most of this: http://two-pi-r.livejournal.com/622760.html http://two-pi-r.livejournal.com/622760.html If you just want to stick up for your "favorite" PHP framework simply because it's the only f**king thing that you know, then go f**k yourself with a hand grenade. There are very good reasons I am advising you not to write new things in this f**king completely broken piece of shit, and security is only one of them. Amen.
- craigvn 14y agoMost developers still think language and framework is important. Mostly it isn't. Jeff just has a higher soapbox. Use Java, PHP, .NET, RoR, Python, it doesn't really matter.