Im guessing Livy too, as i heard it from a professional (English) historian at least a decade ago.. All i remembered was that, whoever the poor writer was, had

Im guessing Livy too, as i heard it from a professional (English) historian at least a decade ago.. All i remembered was that, whoever the poor writer was, had never waged (or even experienced?) war, but popularly quoted in those contexts now that you mentioned it, i notice that English historians (of any day) can be a bit… sloppy in their scholarship compared to continentals Thanks for delving!