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>> it has a well designed UI unlike virtually all microwaves (except the cheap 80s ones with a mechanical timer knob). Growing up we had a Sharp Carousel micr

>> it has a well designed UI unlike virtually all microwaves (except the cheap 80s ones with a mechanical timer knob). Growing up we had a Sharp Carousel microwave, a dial for the timer and a slider for power. Nowadays they're all different. If you hit the number '1', does it automatically start a 1 minute timer, or can you enter 1:30? Do I have to hit cook, or time before I can enter a time? If I hit start does it automatically add 30 seconds? The other thing is I can remember those things were $400 in 1982 dollars, bought I recently bought a pretty nice $80 1100 watt Hamilton Beach microwave at the local big box store. I doubt it will last 30+ years, though.

dylan604 2y ago
When is 90 greater than 100? On a microwave. 90 means 1.5 minutes while 100 means 1 minute, not 1.6 minutes. It's the most basic of UI/UX WTFs
- tshaddox 2y ago
  Also in JavaScript: > [90, 100].sort()
- bluGill 2y ago
  User testing proves it isn't a WTF, it is great UI. Nobody thinks about or even questions that it works that way when using a microwave, and most when told about it for the first time have to think for a long time to realize that weirdness happens. Of course move of Microwave UI is badly done garbage (a knob is better), but the 100 is less than 90 is one of those places where the UI got it right.
- bityard 2y ago
  I'm not seeing how that's much of a WTF. When specifying a time duration or interval, you aren't bound to < 60 seconds like you are when interpreting the time on a clock. I think everyone understands this. Lots of recipes and heating instructions on food packaging use cooking durations in seconds or minutes >= 60. "90 seconds" is easier to read and understand than "1 minute 30 seconds." And besides, what else is '9-0-Start' supposed to mean to a microwave? The alternative is to just show an error, which would be a far worse UX than just assuming (with high accuracy) that the user meant 90 seconds.

dylan604 2y ago

When is 90 greater than 100? On a microwave. 90 means 1.5 minutes while 100 means 1 minute, not 1.6 minutes. It's the most basic of UI/UX WTFs

tshaddox 2y ago
Also in JavaScript: > [90, 100].sort()
bluGill 2y ago
User testing proves it isn't a WTF, it is great UI. Nobody thinks about or even questions that it works that way when using a microwave, and most when told about it for the first time have to think for a long time to realize that weirdness happens. Of course move of Microwave UI is badly done garbage (a knob is better), but the 100 is less than 90 is one of those places where the UI got it right.
bityard 2y ago
I'm not seeing how that's much of a WTF. When specifying a time duration or interval, you aren't bound to < 60 seconds like you are when interpreting the time on a clock. I think everyone understands this. Lots of recipes and heating instructions on food packaging use cooking durations in seconds or minutes >= 60. "90 seconds" is easier to read and understand than "1 minute 30 seconds." And besides, what else is '9-0-Start' supposed to mean to a microwave? The alternative is to just show an error, which would be a far worse UX than just assuming (with high accuracy) that the user meant 90 seconds.