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That seems... fine? I think there's plenty to complain about on Android (or on iOS), but this doesn't feel like a big deal to me.

by kelnos 2y ago

appendix-rock 2y ago
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- theshrike79 2y ago
  It's a sign of the modern times. Something being different than what Main Characters are used to are always bad and should be changed. Have they considered changing the way they do things? No. The world must change to the way they think is best.
  - Vuska 2y ago
    This is such a myopic view. The average smartphone user may not immediately understand why increasingly locked down and user hostile devices are bad, but it does not negate the fact they are.
hulitu 2y ago
> but this doesn't feel like a big deal to me. Just normal enshitification. Nothing to see here. /s (maybe Google shall try to run Play Protect on the Play Store, i've heard that there is a lot of malware there)
greatgib 2y ago
No, this is not fine. The is again another barrier to ensure that things are more difficult and scary when you don't use the official play store. It's an anticompetitive behavior again. You are already logged on your phone interface when you try to install so this additional check is excessive. I could have understood to have it just in the case that you don't protect your phone access with a pin. Also, to not be anticompetitive, the behavior should be the same when using the play store or not. Like asking your pin to use the playstore like what is done in iOS. Even if it sucks if you want my opinion.
- iszomer 2y ago
  Every time I want to install a package off AUR I have to use sudo preceding the command. And people want to whine about that.. /shrug
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    You also have to use sudo to install from official Arch repos. It would be fine if the Play store required a PIN too.
  - greatgib 2y ago
    In addition with other comments, you are also free to disable this behavior, you are also free to install an alternative "package manager" that will not require a sudo for each package installation ... And out of the box, you can also install apps in our own user account without needing a sudo.
  - selfhoster11 2y ago
    1. You do not need to use sudo to run scripts and binaries, provided they are properly packaged. You just need to make them executable, which any user can do without entering the password. 2. You installed Arch Linux. That is a much more technically demanding accomplishment that simply does not equal to enabling sideloading on an Android device. 3. The official Arch repos do not discriminate on the basis of whether a given package will harm corporate interests, or the interests of the Arch development team. Google Play does - for example, NewPipe, which is a far better YouTube client than the official app in many respects, yet Google bans it for commercial advantage.
- aio2 2y ago
  Ideally, it could be what Apple does with their app store, where you can choose or not choose to input your password to install.
dmm 2y ago
It depends on the implementation. Prompting for a pin for a one-time install of a downloaded apk is not a big deal. If it requires a pin every time you install or upgrade from fdroid that would be really excessive and actively discouraging alternative app stores.

That seems... fine? I think there's plenty to complain about on Android (or on iOS), but this doesn't feel like a big deal to me.

by kelnos 2y ago

That seems... fine? I think there's plenty to complain about on Android (or on iOS), but this doesn't feel like a big deal to me.

appendix-rock 2y ago

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theshrike79 2y ago
It's a sign of the modern times. Something being different than what Main Characters are used to are always bad and should be changed. Have they considered changing the way they do things? No. The world must change to the way they think is best.
- Vuska 2y ago
  This is such a myopic view. The average smartphone user may not immediately understand why increasingly locked down and user hostile devices are bad, but it does not negate the fact they are.

hulitu 2y ago

> but this doesn't feel like a big deal to me. Just normal enshitification. Nothing to see here. /s (maybe Google shall try to run Play Protect on the Play Store, i've heard that there is a lot of malware there)

greatgib 2y ago

No, this is not fine. The is again another barrier to ensure that things are more difficult and scary when you don't use the official play store. It's an anticompetitive behavior again. You are already logged on your phone interface when you try to install so this additional check is excessive. I could have understood to have it just in the case that you don't protect your phone access with a pin. Also, to not be anticompetitive, the behavior should be the same when using the play store or not. Like asking your pin to use the playstore like what is done in iOS. Even if it sucks if you want my opinion.

iszomer 2y ago
Every time I want to install a package off AUR I have to use sudo preceding the command. And people want to whine about that.. /shrug
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  You also have to use sudo to install from official Arch repos. It would be fine if the Play store required a PIN too.
- greatgib 2y ago
  In addition with other comments, you are also free to disable this behavior, you are also free to install an alternative "package manager" that will not require a sudo for each package installation ... And out of the box, you can also install apps in our own user account without needing a sudo.
- selfhoster11 2y ago
  1. You do not need to use sudo to run scripts and binaries, provided they are properly packaged. You just need to make them executable, which any user can do without entering the password. 2. You installed Arch Linux. That is a much more technically demanding accomplishment that simply does not equal to enabling sideloading on an Android device. 3. The official Arch repos do not discriminate on the basis of whether a given package will harm corporate interests, or the interests of the Arch development team. Google Play does - for example, NewPipe, which is a far better YouTube client than the official app in many respects, yet Google bans it for commercial advantage.
aio2 2y ago
Ideally, it could be what Apple does with their app store, where you can choose or not choose to input your password to install.

dmm 2y ago

It depends on the implementation. Prompting for a pin for a one-time install of a downloaded apk is not a big deal. If it requires a pin every time you install or upgrade from fdroid that would be really excessive and actively discouraging alternative app stores.