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> there doesn't seem to be a boycott on Google for their part in the attempt to gain an import ban of the XBox or their support of the alleged abuse of FRAND pa

> there doesn't seem to be a boycott on Google for their part in the attempt to gain an import ban of the XBox or their support of the alleged abuse of FRAND patents, both by their newly acquired subsidiary. That is because the perception is that they're using it to countersue Microsoft and Apple who filed the first volleys. >Apple are playing the same legal game as Google are. No, Apple was the initial aggressor against HTC, Motorola and Samsung. And that matters a lot. Have you seen the PC OEMs sue each other over patents like this? They seem to compete in the marketplace like most other industries.

dthunt 14y ago
All parties here are responsible. As long as companies keep building up arsenals of shit patents that they can use to justify these preliminary injunctions, or shop jurisdictions, the beatings will continue and make it virtually impossible for new players to enter the market for fear of legal morass. The issue in the Apple cases that makes me so angry is that they're treating the US patent system like the Japanese 'product design' patents, only impossibly broader and less specific. This type of nonsense - both from non-practicing trolls and the hegemony of practicing patent trolls - has a real cost. Congress needs to step in and limit the scope on a broad swath of patents, make it harder to get injunctions on this stuff, and generally find ways to penalize anticompetitive behavior.
sbuk 14y ago
The FRAND suit legally has nothing to do with this, and what's more it is blatant. What I see here is a bunch of fans of Google giving them a free ride. I don't like Apples approach at the moment either, but to lay any kind of blame solely at their feet is at best naive. Googles recent business dealing are far more worrisome, especially the Kenyan affair. It doesn't matter who shot first either.
v0cab 14y ago
> Apple was the initial aggressor against HTC, Motorola and Samsung. Samsung own the South Korean government, and they've been putting up obstacles to foreign phones in South Korea for years, even before the iPhone.

dthunt 14y ago

All parties here are responsible. As long as companies keep building up arsenals of shit patents that they can use to justify these preliminary injunctions, or shop jurisdictions, the beatings will continue and make it virtually impossible for new players to enter the market for fear of legal morass. The issue in the Apple cases that makes me so angry is that they're treating the US patent system like the Japanese 'product design' patents, only impossibly broader and less specific. This type of nonsense - both from non-practicing trolls and the hegemony of practicing patent trolls - has a real cost. Congress needs to step in and limit the scope on a broad swath of patents, make it harder to get injunctions on this stuff, and generally find ways to penalize anticompetitive behavior.

sbuk 14y ago

The FRAND suit legally has nothing to do with this, and what's more it is blatant. What I see here is a bunch of fans of Google giving them a free ride. I don't like Apples approach at the moment either, but to lay any kind of blame solely at their feet is at best naive. Googles recent business dealing are far more worrisome, especially the Kenyan affair. It doesn't matter who shot first either.

v0cab 14y ago

> Apple was the initial aggressor against HTC, Motorola and Samsung. Samsung own the South Korean government, and they've been putting up obstacles to foreign phones in South Korea for years, even before the iPhone.