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Musk inspired and hired a lot of great engineers that made this all possible. His vision, passion and capital are crucial in this, but he dis not catch these hi

Musk inspired and hired a lot of great engineers that made this all possible. His vision, passion and capital are crucial in this, but he dis not catch these himself, nor did he engineer any of the control systems to the detail needed to make this work, I'm sure.

TomK32 2y ago
I wonder how the mood is at SpaceX. I mean, those engineers see how he unsafe the production workers at Telsa have to work, they see how shit he's treating everyone at Twitter and basically sinking it, how long before someone the mood turns sour and we see an outflow to the competition?
- blueredmodern 2y ago
  It's right around the corner. The evidence that Musk is actually really dumb is riiiiight around the corner. And will continue to be, for a very long time.
  - rob74 2y ago
    Yeah, he's a very stable genius. Just like his very stable genius buddy...
- oldpersonintx 2y ago
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- shiroiushi 2y ago
  The problem I see here is: what competition? There doesn't exactly seem to be any in the rocketry space. There's Boeing, but that place is a disaster right now. I guess ULA is still around, but they're not doing anything groundbreaking at all AFAICT, just using old rocket designs to launch some satellites. Where else can these people go? Twitter people can go lots of places, both competing social networks, and also various other internet-related or software places. Tesla people can go to lots of different competing automakers. But I don't see anyplace nice for SpaceX people to go.
  - timschmidt 2y ago
    > what competition? The list is actually pretty long: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_spaceflight_companies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_spaceflight_co... And that's not counting nation states.
    - ywvcbk 2y ago
      Pencil pushing for pennies at Airbus/ArianeSpace is probably not that appealing. Going to work for the Chinese or Russians? Well.. as long as you’re not planning to ever go back home. There aren’t that many options for people who want to be a part of a team that actually accomplishes something significant.
      - timschmidt 2y ago
        You say that, but at least half a dozen of these companies in the linked wikipedia list, all western, launched rockets last year. And several more are on track to launch within the next. Rocketlab is a serious competitor with multiple spaceports, a rapid launch cadence, and reusability and next-generation launcher projects in the works. Blue Origin is supplying engines to ULA and seems almost ready to test New Glen. Firefly had a successful launch. Stoke is working on a resuability concept that's even more exciting than starship, and advancing steadily through testing flight capable hardware. The list goes on. Rocketlab and others even have products which standardize the bus part of the sattellite or probe, so you just attach your science experiment or sensor.
  - hatsunearu 2y ago
    I'm guessing the talent at SpaceX will leave and make their own company.
  - ragebol 2y ago
    Plenty of of want-to-be competitors, but not so far with the amount of capital behind Musk. And space remains capital intensive, if not for hardware, then for people.
  - 2y ago
- nailer 2y ago
  People at twitter seem to be very happy, major features like community notes are being shipped and having a huge impact on the platform and the company is much healthier after he removed the employees that weren’t doing anything.
  - eadler 2y ago
    Community notes was designed and shipped before the takeover. It was called "birdwatch".
- ragebol 2y ago
  Not to mention his politics. I see space exploration as progress, which doesn't really mesh with conservative, backward politics.
- raincole 2y ago
  Outflow to where? Boeing? Russia?
- ragebol 2y ago
  There's some new competitors, like Stoke, Relativity, Blue Origin, bunch more I'm forgetting. This sort of diaspora of talent with experience is good to have, if there is capital
  - ragebol 2y ago
    LOL, Blue Origin is not new btw. But new to launching orbital rockets
ninetyninenine 2y ago
He pushed for it and is instrumental in the design. Musk is not just a ceo.

TomK32 2y ago

I wonder how the mood is at SpaceX. I mean, those engineers see how he unsafe the production workers at Telsa have to work, they see how shit he's treating everyone at Twitter and basically sinking it, how long before someone the mood turns sour and we see an outflow to the competition?

blueredmodern 2y ago
It's right around the corner. The evidence that Musk is actually really dumb is riiiiight around the corner. And will continue to be, for a very long time.
- rob74 2y ago
  Yeah, he's a very stable genius. Just like his very stable genius buddy...
oldpersonintx 2y ago
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shiroiushi 2y ago
The problem I see here is: what competition? There doesn't exactly seem to be any in the rocketry space. There's Boeing, but that place is a disaster right now. I guess ULA is still around, but they're not doing anything groundbreaking at all AFAICT, just using old rocket designs to launch some satellites. Where else can these people go? Twitter people can go lots of places, both competing social networks, and also various other internet-related or software places. Tesla people can go to lots of different competing automakers. But I don't see anyplace nice for SpaceX people to go.
- timschmidt 2y ago
  > what competition? The list is actually pretty long: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_spaceflight_companies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_spaceflight_co... And that's not counting nation states.
  - ywvcbk 2y ago
    Pencil pushing for pennies at Airbus/ArianeSpace is probably not that appealing. Going to work for the Chinese or Russians? Well.. as long as you’re not planning to ever go back home. There aren’t that many options for people who want to be a part of a team that actually accomplishes something significant.
    - timschmidt 2y ago
      You say that, but at least half a dozen of these companies in the linked wikipedia list, all western, launched rockets last year. And several more are on track to launch within the next. Rocketlab is a serious competitor with multiple spaceports, a rapid launch cadence, and reusability and next-generation launcher projects in the works. Blue Origin is supplying engines to ULA and seems almost ready to test New Glen. Firefly had a successful launch. Stoke is working on a resuability concept that's even more exciting than starship, and advancing steadily through testing flight capable hardware. The list goes on. Rocketlab and others even have products which standardize the bus part of the sattellite or probe, so you just attach your science experiment or sensor.
- hatsunearu 2y ago
  I'm guessing the talent at SpaceX will leave and make their own company.
- ragebol 2y ago
  Plenty of of want-to-be competitors, but not so far with the amount of capital behind Musk. And space remains capital intensive, if not for hardware, then for people.
- 2y ago
nailer 2y ago
People at twitter seem to be very happy, major features like community notes are being shipped and having a huge impact on the platform and the company is much healthier after he removed the employees that weren’t doing anything.
- eadler 2y ago
  Community notes was designed and shipped before the takeover. It was called "birdwatch".
ragebol 2y ago
Not to mention his politics. I see space exploration as progress, which doesn't really mesh with conservative, backward politics.
raincole 2y ago
Outflow to where? Boeing? Russia?
ragebol 2y ago
There's some new competitors, like Stoke, Relativity, Blue Origin, bunch more I'm forgetting. This sort of diaspora of talent with experience is good to have, if there is capital
- ragebol 2y ago
  LOL, Blue Origin is not new btw. But new to launching orbital rockets

ninetyninenine 2y ago

He pushed for it and is instrumental in the design. Musk is not just a ceo.