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Here is a web site that defends Stallman: https://stallmansupport.org/richard-stallman-honors-and-awards.html https://stallmansupport.org/richard-stallman-hono

by aag 2y ago

Here is a web site that defends Stallman: https://stallmansupport.org/richard-stallman-honors-and-awards.html https://stallmansupport.org/richard-stallman-honors-and-awar... I take no position.

shadowgovt 2y ago
It's a good awards list, but I'm not sure industry and ecosystem awards are the right way to judge something like this. Compare and contrast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Weinstein#Awards_and_honors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Weinstein#Awards_and_ho...
jcranmer 2y ago
I'll be extremely charitable and assume you meant to link to the site in general as a rebuttal, and not specifically to the webpage that just lists his awards, because saying that someone's misdeeds don't matter because they also did great things is a rather gross viewpoint and a continuing insult to the people who are victims both of the "Great Men" and the wannabe-"Great Men" who feel safe doing such acts in the belief that future greatness will similarly exonerate them. The page that's most responsive to what's brought up is here: https://stallmansupport.org/debunking-false-accusations-against-richard-stallman.html https://stallmansupport.org/debunking-false-accusations-agai.... However, I feel that it doesn't really debunk the core accusations here, which is essentially that Stallman's views on what constitutes consent just aren't acceptable in today's world.
- aag 2y ago
  I was just trying to find something that took the other side. As I said, I take no position on these accusations. I simply don't know enough.
  - fsflover 2y ago
    You repeated an already existing link from comments, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41838335 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41838335, and changed it to look less credible.
    - aag 2y ago
      I didn't repeat it or change it. I hadn't seen it.
- mikrotikker 2y ago
  Given that some of the "evidence" is decades old do we know if his views on consent remain the same to this day?

by aag 2y ago

Here is a web site that defends Stallman: https://stallmansupport.org/richard-stallman-honors-and-awards.html https://stallmansupport.org/richard-stallman-honors-and-awar... I take no position.

shadowgovt 2y ago

It's a good awards list, but I'm not sure industry and ecosystem awards are the right way to judge something like this. Compare and contrast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Weinstein#Awards_and_honors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Weinstein#Awards_and_ho...

jcranmer 2y ago

I'll be extremely charitable and assume you meant to link to the site in general as a rebuttal, and not specifically to the webpage that just lists his awards, because saying that someone's misdeeds don't matter because they also did great things is a rather gross viewpoint and a continuing insult to the people who are victims both of the "Great Men" and the wannabe-"Great Men" who feel safe doing such acts in the belief that future greatness will similarly exonerate them. The page that's most responsive to what's brought up is here: https://stallmansupport.org/debunking-false-accusations-against-richard-stallman.html https://stallmansupport.org/debunking-false-accusations-agai.... However, I feel that it doesn't really debunk the core accusations here, which is essentially that Stallman's views on what constitutes consent just aren't acceptable in today's world.

aag 2y ago
I was just trying to find something that took the other side. As I said, I take no position on these accusations. I simply don't know enough.
- fsflover 2y ago
  You repeated an already existing link from comments, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41838335 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41838335, and changed it to look less credible.
  - aag 2y ago
    I didn't repeat it or change it. I hadn't seen it.
mikrotikker 2y ago
Given that some of the "evidence" is decades old do we know if his views on consent remain the same to this day?