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> This is my second day of kitchen-table blogging using wordLand, WordPress and Mastodon, and I like it even more today than I did yesterday. http://scripting.

> This is my second day of kitchen-table blogging using wordLand, WordPress and Mastodon, and I like it even more today than I did yesterday. http://scripting.com/2024/10/11/132736.html?title=theWebLivesInWordpressAndMastodon http://scripting.com/2024/10/11/132736.html?title=theWebLive... https://daveverse.wordpress.com/2024/10/11/my-new-writing-environment-does-textcasting/ https://daveverse.wordpress.com/2024/10/11/my-new-writing-en... I have a writing tool I call wordLand, it connects directly to WordPress, and from there, one of my sites is hooked up to Mastodon via ActivityPub.. The reason I’m having so much fun with this mofo is that I have most of the features of textcasting now, and it’s all flowing out through Masto, and I’m not typing into a freaking tiny little text box! https://textcasting.org/ https://textcasting.org/ Applying the philosophy of podcasting to text. Interop between social media apps based on the features writers need. A prototype of self-hosted editor that "publishes" format-appropriate versions to different social media sites, while the author retains copyright, data and compute control of the original source. By https://davewiner.com/ https://davewiner.com/, pioneer of weblogging, RSS syndication and more.

dang 2y ago
(I edited the above comment to separate the first two links more clearly)
righthand 2y ago
I have been trying to understand what is being suggested here and all I can think of is some Buffer.co-like posting UI for the desktop. The parts of podcasting that make it discoverable, consumable, shareable is already in the web for text…
- walterbell 2y ago
  This post mentions using Wordpress as a proxy (?) API to Mastodon, https://daveverse.wordpress.com/2024/10/12/why-is-this-possible-now/ https://daveverse.wordpress.com/2024/10/12/why-is-this-possi... > Mastodon, while they’re doing excellent work, is trying to wrangle an already large community into a set of consistent interfaces.. Automattic has a small team whose only job is to make WordPress work with Mastodon. So I can build software that works with Mastodon without venturing into the rough seas of Mastodon-land, I can stay on the cruise-liner, which is the WordPress API.
  - righthand 2y ago
    Wordpress doesn’t have native built post to Facebook/Twitter/etc. functionality so I’m not sure what the author is still advocating for…an API layer to post to social networks still is just a Buffer.co-like. I don’t disagree but what the author is suggesting will post to social networks, then I am supposed to use whatever UI to consume the posts?
safety1st 2y ago
Kind of funny to see Dave Winer of all people saying he doesn't sweat the technical details here. So I think this is what's going on. Dave had an idea he called textcasting which he describes on his textcasting.org site, I didn't see anything really new there - syndicating text from your blog to any other app or social media site, seems to be the basic idea. A protocol called ActivityPub has been around for a while which enables this exact scenario, it's the core of Mastodon etc. and I believe is even supported by Threads. Dave was pleasantly surprised to discover that this all just works on his Wordpress.com blog. I think the underlying implementation is probably the ActivityPub WordPress plugin which is developed primarily by Matthias Pfefferle - https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/ https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/ - you can install and run this plugin on any WordPress site. I agree with Dave where he says Automattic is sleeping on the potential here, I feel ActivityPub support should have been rolled into WP Core a few years ago. The tech for this federated media is getting pretty good. Mastodon is a thing, it works, adoption is slowly creeping up but still not really huge. WP could roll out ActivityPub support to 800 million websites and then if you so choose your own website then becomes a node in the social network and you don't have to sign up with anybody else to make that happen. This is once-in-a-generation sort of potential perhaps. Pfefferle did the original version of the plugin himself and Automattic hired him a few years ago. In theory anyone who deals with a lot of WP installs could be putting their own money/time/code into this vision (your personal website is your social media profile, basically), and piggybacking on the established fediverse as modest as it may be, and growing it.
theshrike79 2y ago
So it's a POSSE[0] system, like everything should be. You keep your content on systems and platforms you control. Then republish to walled gardens and silos, either via a link to your own platform (which is downranked by algorithms...) or repost the content. [0] https://indieweb.org/POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE
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dang 2y ago

(I edited the above comment to separate the first two links more clearly)

righthand 2y ago

I have been trying to understand what is being suggested here and all I can think of is some Buffer.co-like posting UI for the desktop. The parts of podcasting that make it discoverable, consumable, shareable is already in the web for text…

walterbell 2y ago
This post mentions using Wordpress as a proxy (?) API to Mastodon, https://daveverse.wordpress.com/2024/10/12/why-is-this-possible-now/ https://daveverse.wordpress.com/2024/10/12/why-is-this-possi... > Mastodon, while they’re doing excellent work, is trying to wrangle an already large community into a set of consistent interfaces.. Automattic has a small team whose only job is to make WordPress work with Mastodon. So I can build software that works with Mastodon without venturing into the rough seas of Mastodon-land, I can stay on the cruise-liner, which is the WordPress API.
- righthand 2y ago
  Wordpress doesn’t have native built post to Facebook/Twitter/etc. functionality so I’m not sure what the author is still advocating for…an API layer to post to social networks still is just a Buffer.co-like. I don’t disagree but what the author is suggesting will post to social networks, then I am supposed to use whatever UI to consume the posts?

safety1st 2y ago

Kind of funny to see Dave Winer of all people saying he doesn't sweat the technical details here. So I think this is what's going on. Dave had an idea he called textcasting which he describes on his textcasting.org site, I didn't see anything really new there - syndicating text from your blog to any other app or social media site, seems to be the basic idea. A protocol called ActivityPub has been around for a while which enables this exact scenario, it's the core of Mastodon etc. and I believe is even supported by Threads. Dave was pleasantly surprised to discover that this all just works on his Wordpress.com blog. I think the underlying implementation is probably the ActivityPub WordPress plugin which is developed primarily by Matthias Pfefferle - https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/ https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/ - you can install and run this plugin on any WordPress site. I agree with Dave where he says Automattic is sleeping on the potential here, I feel ActivityPub support should have been rolled into WP Core a few years ago. The tech for this federated media is getting pretty good. Mastodon is a thing, it works, adoption is slowly creeping up but still not really huge. WP could roll out ActivityPub support to 800 million websites and then if you so choose your own website then becomes a node in the social network and you don't have to sign up with anybody else to make that happen. This is once-in-a-generation sort of potential perhaps. Pfefferle did the original version of the plugin himself and Automattic hired him a few years ago. In theory anyone who deals with a lot of WP installs could be putting their own money/time/code into this vision (your personal website is your social media profile, basically), and piggybacking on the established fediverse as modest as it may be, and growing it.

theshrike79 2y ago

So it's a POSSE[0] system, like everything should be. You keep your content on systems and platforms you control. Then republish to walled gardens and silos, either via a link to your own platform (which is downranked by algorithms...) or repost the content. [0] https://indieweb.org/POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE

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