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Quite a few people at the event asked employees about this and were directly given the answer. It wasn't a secret.

by _ea1k 2y ago

standardUser 2y ago
The fact that the fraud was lazy and blatant makes it worse, not better.
- jkestner 2y ago
  Less lazy than a dancer in a skin tight robot suit. Progress!
slg 2y ago
Were you at the event or do you have a source for that claim? I have seen video of one of the bots refusing to give an answer to that question and there were multiple articles in the wake of the event that couldn't come to any definitive conclusion so I'm skeptical of this claim of immediate transparency.
- silisili 2y ago
  Is this the video you saw (posting below, for you and anyone who hasn't seen it). While ignoring the question the first time, he did confirm that they were being assisted by a human. Perhaps not as clear as 'remotely operated', but that's about how I took the answer. YMMV. https://x.com/zhen9436/status/1844773471240294651 https://x.com/zhen9436/status/1844773471240294651
  - slg 2y ago
    No, the one I saw ducked the question multiple times so that video is more informative even if "assisted by a human" is still somewhat vague. I guess they just left what to disclose up to the individual operator making the level of deception dependent on who you happened to ask. Such a bizarre way to handle an event like this, but I guess that type of haphazard approach should be unsurprising for a Musk run company at this point.
- _ea1k 2y ago
  I didn't go, but I saw the video that someone else linked. Also, during the event DirtyTesla was telling people that he was told they were remotely operated. I don't think he had insider knowledge, just answers from workers. I did see that a few other people seemed to get more vague answers, notably including MKBHD. It seems strange that there wasn't consistent messaging.
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me_me_me 2y ago
Everyone working for Elisabeth Holmes knew it was all fake is not an excuse that worked for her

Quite a few people at the event asked employees about this and were directly given the answer. It wasn't a secret.

by _ea1k 2y ago

Quite a few people at the event asked employees about this and were directly given the answer. It wasn't a secret.

standardUser 2y ago

The fact that the fraud was lazy and blatant makes it worse, not better.

jkestner 2y ago
Less lazy than a dancer in a skin tight robot suit. Progress!

slg 2y ago

Were you at the event or do you have a source for that claim? I have seen video of one of the bots refusing to give an answer to that question and there were multiple articles in the wake of the event that couldn't come to any definitive conclusion so I'm skeptical of this claim of immediate transparency.

silisili 2y ago
Is this the video you saw (posting below, for you and anyone who hasn't seen it). While ignoring the question the first time, he did confirm that they were being assisted by a human. Perhaps not as clear as 'remotely operated', but that's about how I took the answer. YMMV. https://x.com/zhen9436/status/1844773471240294651 https://x.com/zhen9436/status/1844773471240294651
- slg 2y ago
  No, the one I saw ducked the question multiple times so that video is more informative even if "assisted by a human" is still somewhat vague. I guess they just left what to disclose up to the individual operator making the level of deception dependent on who you happened to ask. Such a bizarre way to handle an event like this, but I guess that type of haphazard approach should be unsurprising for a Musk run company at this point.
_ea1k 2y ago
I didn't go, but I saw the video that someone else linked. Also, during the event DirtyTesla was telling people that he was told they were remotely operated. I don't think he had insider knowledge, just answers from workers. I did see that a few other people seemed to get more vague answers, notably including MKBHD. It seems strange that there wasn't consistent messaging.

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me_me_me 2y ago

Everyone working for Elisabeth Holmes knew it was all fake is not an excuse that worked for her