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No. Not from my point of view, as someone who has a couple of dozen WordPress clients. "Someone" needs a CMS that's able to be securely, performantly, and prof

No. Not from my point of view, as someone who has a couple of dozen WordPress clients. "Someone" needs a CMS that's able to be securely, performantly, and professionally managed by hosting companies, and that is as easy for small and medium businesses to use and as easy to find experienced staff and agencies to help run. We do not recommend as use WordPress because of it's "solid architecture" or "isolation/sandboxing" or it's FE Dev buzzword de jour use of "exciting" "new" technology. We recommend it because the Widget Factory owner can probably get one of his grandkids or niece/nephews to act as website editor for him, or the piano teacher can get one of their students to help out with their website in return for discounted lessons, or the online store owner can easily employ someone with WordPress admin experience to get themselves off eBay/Marketplace and onto their own website. Or the lawyer/plumber/accountant/whoever's office manager or "that young staff member who's good with computers" can run Wordpress - perhaps with assistance of their existing outside IT consultants to install/manage it and perhaps setup/customise it initially. None of those people care about whether it's written in Rust, or uses WASM, or is dockerized and autoscaling. Their #1 problem is "can I quickly update my website if I find an error or if I have to put an important message to my customers on my homepage?" #2 is "can I easily learn how to do simple edits to my site, and can I easily find employees can work with it, and can I finb contractors/agencies who'll be able to help with more complex changes/updated?" and somewhere down below #1 is "is my site at least reasonably secure from being hacked, and if it is hacked can I get it restored/repaired rapidly". There are dozens or hundreds of "better technology choices" that WordPress these days. It's really hard to find a "better business choice" for a lot of projects though.

whalesalad 2y ago
All of your arguments go out the window when the foundation disappears. That’s what is happening now. Wordpress isn’t good in and of itself. It’s good due to the community of developers working on it, and likewise the plugins they have painstakingly created (despite the terrible programming environment) That’s gone now.
- bigiain 2y ago
  Yes. and that's sad. Very sad. Having said that, it seems that many people (me included) have been assuming things about "the WordPress Foundation" that are not true. It apparently is _not_ the steward of the wordpress.org repository of 3rd party themes and plugins the "community of developers" painstakingly created, and that have made WordPress "good" for so many different people. As far as I can tell, "the foundation" does whatever it does on a tax filing declared budget of around $22,000 (so, not much?) - and it exists mostly as a non profit "owner" of some trademarks that it immediately exclusively and irrevocably licensed for commercial use back to Automattic the same day they got given them. I'm pretty sure "the foundation" could have disappeared anytime in the last decade, or could remain to exist for another decade or two to come, and either way wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. It's not the foundation that's gone, it's the trust in the Wordpress core development leadership, the trust in the wordpress.org theme/plugin leadership, and the trust that the WordPress trademark is safe to use in perfectly normal and legal ways without the treat of being extorted if you start making too much money.

whalesalad 2y ago

All of your arguments go out the window when the foundation disappears. That’s what is happening now. Wordpress isn’t good in and of itself. It’s good due to the community of developers working on it, and likewise the plugins they have painstakingly created (despite the terrible programming environment) That’s gone now.

bigiain 2y ago
Yes. and that's sad. Very sad. Having said that, it seems that many people (me included) have been assuming things about "the WordPress Foundation" that are not true. It apparently is _not_ the steward of the wordpress.org repository of 3rd party themes and plugins the "community of developers" painstakingly created, and that have made WordPress "good" for so many different people. As far as I can tell, "the foundation" does whatever it does on a tax filing declared budget of around $22,000 (so, not much?) - and it exists mostly as a non profit "owner" of some trademarks that it immediately exclusively and irrevocably licensed for commercial use back to Automattic the same day they got given them. I'm pretty sure "the foundation" could have disappeared anytime in the last decade, or could remain to exist for another decade or two to come, and either way wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. It's not the foundation that's gone, it's the trust in the Wordpress core development leadership, the trust in the wordpress.org theme/plugin leadership, and the trust that the WordPress trademark is safe to use in perfectly normal and legal ways without the treat of being extorted if you start making too much money.