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Watching people fight over this crummy old tech is like watching pigs wrestling in mud.

by jongjong 2y ago

gehsty 2y ago
…if the mud was millions of dollars
- ValentineC 2y ago
  More like billions of dollars. Automattic themselves supposedly have half a billion in revenue — the entire pie is much bigger than that.
- deleted 2y ago
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gman83 2y ago
I've been looking for an alternative that let's me set up a site for non-technical users but I haven't found any open-source alternative. With Wordpress I can install something like GeneratePress & Blocks, set up ACF and add some custom fields, and anyone can manage the site. End users don't want to be writing React and Tailwind to edit their site.
- lrae 2y ago
  Payload 3 (currently beta) doesn't look bad, but a site still needs some work from somebody who can at least somewhat code, and it's not just installing wordpress, generatepress and ACF. Same for Directus. But again, not a 1-to-1 WP replacement.
- g8oz 2y ago
  I think any sort of headless CMS or at least one with a decoupled presentation layer would work well these days. directus, webflow etc.
  - bigiain 2y ago
    Tell me of one where a small business can get an experienced CMS user/editor/publisher on practically zero notice, and at basically regular office admin payrates. _That_ is WordPress's "killer feature". And its why my best guess at the long term outcome here involves a smoking crater where Matt's reputation and Automattic/wordpress.com/WordPress Foundation/wprdpress.org used to be, and either a similarly "Mutually Assured Destruction" crater where WPEngine once was, or perhaps a decimated-by-legal-bills hollow shell of what it is now. And something like ClassicPress or AspirePress or other forks to "soak up" the huge existing talent pool of people who know how to run websites using something close enough to what WordPress used to be, and the thousands for hundreds of thousands of theme/plugin developers and Wordpress specialist developers/agencies/contractors choosing to hitch their professional lives to one or all of the emergent forks. And for millions of website owners to shake their heads again at how annoying but essential IT nerds and their stupid drama are for them to run their business/website...

Watching people fight over this crummy old tech is like watching pigs wrestling in mud.

gehsty 2y ago

…if the mud was millions of dollars

ValentineC 2y ago
More like billions of dollars. Automattic themselves supposedly have half a billion in revenue — the entire pie is much bigger than that.
deleted 2y ago
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gman83 2y ago

I've been looking for an alternative that let's me set up a site for non-technical users but I haven't found any open-source alternative. With Wordpress I can install something like GeneratePress & Blocks, set up ACF and add some custom fields, and anyone can manage the site. End users don't want to be writing React and Tailwind to edit their site.

lrae 2y ago
Payload 3 (currently beta) doesn't look bad, but a site still needs some work from somebody who can at least somewhat code, and it's not just installing wordpress, generatepress and ACF. Same for Directus. But again, not a 1-to-1 WP replacement.
g8oz 2y ago
I think any sort of headless CMS or at least one with a decoupled presentation layer would work well these days. directus, webflow etc.
- bigiain 2y ago
  Tell me of one where a small business can get an experienced CMS user/editor/publisher on practically zero notice, and at basically regular office admin payrates. _That_ is WordPress's "killer feature". And its why my best guess at the long term outcome here involves a smoking crater where Matt's reputation and Automattic/wordpress.com/WordPress Foundation/wprdpress.org used to be, and either a similarly "Mutually Assured Destruction" crater where WPEngine once was, or perhaps a decimated-by-legal-bills hollow shell of what it is now. And something like ClassicPress or AspirePress or other forks to "soak up" the huge existing talent pool of people who know how to run websites using something close enough to what WordPress used to be, and the thousands for hundreds of thousands of theme/plugin developers and Wordpress specialist developers/agencies/contractors choosing to hitch their professional lives to one or all of the emergent forks. And for millions of website owners to shake their heads again at how annoying but essential IT nerds and their stupid drama are for them to run their business/website...