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> "Financial aspects of dental radiography also deserve further study," Feit added No joke. That is a major money maker. There is minimal cost per-use and your
by rdtsc 2y ago
> "Financial aspects of dental radiography also deserve further study," Feit added
No joke. That is a major money maker. There is minimal cost per-use and your insurance pays $200 for it (my last one was $186.00 for instance). The dentists would be crazy not to recommend them as of often as possible.
Fluoride "rinses" are likely up there too. Rinse for a few seconds and they charge the insurance $50 or something for it.
- sidewndr46 2y agoI had some dentist that figured out a way to bill my insurance once every 6 months and get paid. He was insistent I get X-Rays every 6 months as a result. I quit going to that dentist.
- tdeck 2y agoAt least fouride rinses provide some benefit. Although you can get much more benefit from buying a bottle of Act and rinsing with it every day.
- codr7 2y ago[flagged]
- addicted 2y agoFluoride may potentially have some negative effects but we’ve been drinking Florida red water across the world for several decades and different countries have added fluoridation at different times etc, and it’s hard to see any severe effect that would qualify it as anything close to “madness”.
- codr7 2y agoReally, you don't see it?
- replwoacause 2y agoElaborate please?
- codr7 2y agoThe madness.
- red-iron-pine 2y agothis is a bad Florida-Man joke
- codr7 2y agoFar from a joke, it's very likely that some of the dysfunction we see is triggered by all the crap we put in our bodies to generate more profits.
- orev 2y agoIf it was “highly toxic” it would be obvious because people would be getting sick or dying after ingesting it. Maybe it’s got some issues that aren’t obvious, but there’s not a clear answer. However you don’t swallow mouth rinses like Act, so any nonobvious issue is also greatly reduced.
- codr7 2y agoOr, it could be a contributing factor to any of the umpteen lifestyle diseases we're dealing with atm. Not swallowing is great, but I'm sure the concentration is high enough for it to be absorbed anyway.
- Vortigaunt 2y agoLike with everything else, the dosage makes the poison. I personally intend to stay vigilante to dihydrogen monoxide poisoning.
- seanw444 2y agohttps://www.dhmo.org/facts.html https://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
- codr7 2y agoYeah, but the doses are way different for different substances, as are the side effects. Edit: Haha, speaking about whooshing, use your brain or someone else will.
- absoflutely 2y agoWhooshed right over your head.
- s0sa 2y agoFluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.
- hi-v-rocknroll 2y agoI can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
- codr7 2y agoMore like profiting from making people sick, aka. modern medicine.
- malfist 2y agoFluoridated water is a communist plot?
- tsimionescu 2y agoThis is the joke from Dr Strangelove, right?
- dag11 2y agohttps://youtu.be/J67wKhddWu4?t=116 https://youtu.be/J67wKhddWu4?t=116
- LorenPechtel 2y agoRemember the old adage--it's the dose that makes the poison. There is *nothing* that is not lethal if consumed in sufficient quantity. That includes *everything* that we require to live, although in some cases it becomes effectively impossible to ingest a lethal amount. Thus showing that something is toxic doesn't mean it's something you should never consume. And note that fluoridation started because it was observed that the people in areas with higher natural levels benefited.
- codr7 2y agoFluoridation started because they wanted to get rid of toxic byproducts from making aluminum, the rest is marketing.
- LorenPechtel 2y agoWhat's added to tap water isn't the compound used in aluminum refining. Thus they would have to separate it out and at that point they can simply react it with aluminum and continue to use it. There's nothing to discard.
- codr7 2y agoIt was a byproduct as far as I remember, finding good information is getting more difficult every year. Why is it so difficult to believe? Haven't we seen enough examples of people in power not giving a shit?
- thaumasiotes 2y ago> There is *nothing* that is not lethal if consumed in sufficient quantity. To be fair, the quantity of fluorine that would kill you if you consumed it is too small to notice. What's saving you from the fluoride isn't that there isn't enough fluorine to be dangerous - it's that the fluorine is accompanied by things that make it less dangerous. Table salt is 60% highly toxic chlorine, but you're free to coat your food in it because it's 40% sodium, too. In combination, they're fine and in fact necessary to life. Consumed separately in equal amounts, either would kill you. The quantity isn't what matters.
- rdtsc 2y agoFair point. And with fluoridated water and toothpaste, is the dentist checking the dosages? It's probably fine anyway, but paying an tens of dollars for it seems excessive. And like you said, get a bottle for rinsing at home, it's a lot cheaper than $40 per rinse.
- caseyy 2y agoI think most private dentists charge about £20/$25 for a radiography in the UK. In the US, this pricing seems also available - https://www.teethtalkgirl.com/dental-health/cost-for-dental-x-ray-with-and-without-insurance/ https://www.teethtalkgirl.com/dental-health/cost-for-dental-.... Interestingly, I lived in Central Europe for a while and all my private dentists just used visual inspection for teeth. I never had an issue with that, all decay was spotted in time and in many cases earlier than with the x-ray only method, because more attention was paid to how the teeth look up-close, at all angles. However, the visual inspection takes more time and skill. One might argue x-ray is the cheaper and quicker option. Though it costs more to the patient in many cases. Ah, the world of dentistry.
- t-writescode 2y agoAll I'm seeing here is insurance, yet again, over-complicated or increasing the price of things and dentists doing what they can to continue to make a buck while they're severely underpaid for their other procedures.
- ktosobcy 2y agoThose prices are insane... I wonder if it's due to the insurance f-up of the whole health system in the USA (i.e. ballooning the prices because "insurance will pay"))
- ninalanyon 2y agoThose prices are absurd. My whole annual check up including a digital X-ray, visual inspection, tartar removal, polishing, costs less than that. And that is in high cost Norway.
- throwaway2037 2y agoHow much did it cost? If _much_ lower than 200 USD per visit in a very wealthy country, then I assume: (a) dentists don't make very much money. Less than 100K USD? (b) most of the work is done by poorly paid dental assistants (20 USD per hour or less). Running a high quality dental clinic is expensive, both for equipment and staff. How can it be so cheap in Norway?
- nlnn 2y agoIt's pretty similar in the UK for private dentistry, x-rays ~£10-30, hygienist/scale/polish ~£50-120, filling ~£70-150, root canal/extraction ~£120-300. Dentist salaries seem to range between £70-200k depending on experience, specialty, etc.
- arethuza 2y agoBone graft and implant for a single tooth can be up to £9K...
- nlnn 2y agoFor sure, stuff like implants, cosmetic dentistry, braces, crowns etc. still cost a non-trivial amount (though hopefully most are once in a lifetime things).
- arethuza 2y agoYeah - I had a dental bone graft a few months back and I certainly hope its a once in a lifetime thing! NB No criticism of the dentist that did it - took two dentists and an assistant nearly 5 hours and they have an impressive amount of kit...
- xyst 2y agoFluoride rinses on plan are not covered and cost $25 out of pocket. I did it once and didn’t feel it added anything to the cleaning.