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I Hate VC's

16 points by robomartin 2y ago

I have started a number of companies. All self-funded. Some were successful and others were "experiences". My last company was almost acquired for tens of millions of dollars when the economy imploded in 2008 and the world froze. A few years ago I decided I could take some of the technologies developed for that business and apply them to a new domain: Energy Optimization. The idea was to support wide deployment of EV's. Today this has shifted to power-hungry AI data centers. I self-funded this hardware/software startup and got on with developing the products. The pandemic forced us to pivot in 2020. We developed an aircraft disinfection robot. We had a lot of interest from major airlines and a $50MM sales pipeline. When the vaccine was announced, interest evaporated. How you deal with the tough moments in life and business is important. You have to be resilient. In 2022, we closed a sale worth about $200K based on the pre-pandemic project. We finished the design (software and hardware), manufactured it in-house and shipped it by the end of the year. At that point, it was easy to see that seeking external funding to scale and accelerate market penetration was the correct path. What I was not ready for was the revelation of how shitty this world can be, an often is. Going through YC Startup School did not prepare me for this reality. Here are some of aspects of the experience (non-exhaustive): - Conferences designed to suck money out of entrepreneurs - Well known organizations that also suck money out of entrepreneurs - IP attorneys who hold expensive events with investors who are there to stroke each others' egos - IP attorneys who try to convince entrepreneurs to spend large sums of money on filings before speaking with anyone - You can spend tens of thousands of dollars at all sorts of events and get nothing for it - Meetups that are nothing more than an excuse to go drink at a bar (low quality engagements and conversations) - Conferences where entrepreneurs are asked to pay thousands of dollars for a table and a 15 minute speaking slot - Ghosting - "Let's meet this week" ... and then nothing, ghosted - Pointlessly deep dives into projections - Pointless requests for long term business plans - Chasing after AI unicorns - Impossible to reach - Age discrimination - $5K to $10K/month VC consultants who claim to have all the answers - Single founder discrimination - Hardware? The room goes "Poof!" and you are left talking to the janitors - Applied to YC? Yes! - No feedback whatsoever - What's the point? - Do you really want to help entrepreneurs? - Then help them? - Give them feedback - Hard? What we do is harder I had people from prominent family offices, investment funds, bankers and VC's stand up in the middle of my presentation and say things like "Come talk to me. I want to fund you", only to be ghosted two weeks later. I had people in the same meeting (about 200 in the audience) stand up and say "We are doing a $100MM project right now that can use this technology. Let's talk.". Ghosted. My guess is this was about virtue-signaling in front of their peers. I had someone "commit" to $2MM. Ghosted. I had someone from a fund in Europe ask to get in on the round once we got our first investor. Ghosted. I had a VC reject us based on advice of a recent grad "CTO" barely capable of running a cookie baking operation. Etc. This all makes me wonder how many startups die a painful death because VC's are shit. VC's: A starting point might just be the idea of treating others as you would like to be treated. Time to pivot into an AI startup I guess. I can play that game as much as anybody. Here's to using AI to get people to click on a button. Yeah, that's going to save the world. Here's a throw-away email address for this post: doglover442-vcpost@yahoo.com

fuzzfactor 2y ago
Just a guess but VC's probably only dislike you slightly, and that could change.
- robomartin 2y ago
  Not sure what you mean by that.
  - fuzzfactor 2y ago
    Looks like you have been burned repeatedly by non-benvolent capitalists, and there is not much room for love which I completely understand. As well as your legitimate gripes, and I appreciate the details you have given. I do know exactly how you feel and have had to remind myself of this at times, potential relationships like this are naturally so lopsided that you are probably being cast aside like most anyone else, with no negative feelings from the capitalists aimed at you in particular. So keep your chin up, it's no reflection in any deficiencies you may have. Sorry for such a low-content comment to begin with, but nobody else had said anything so all I could do at the time was off-the-cuff and hope your submission would not drop off unrecognized. With no-one else to upvote other than the submission itself, looks like worthwhile submissions tend to sink faster than they should.
krak12 2y ago
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readyplayernull 2y ago
Cool list. This seems to be your stigma: Single founder discrimination Do like japanese do and get fake companions. I'd hire actors. If you are still around it means you have been successful, as in haven't been crushed yet. You still haven't suffered bad partners or vultures.
- robomartin 2y ago
  Here's the interesting part of this. I do have what I will call potential co-founders identified and ready to go on this. The reason I cannot present them or list them on applications, decks or documents is that they have jobs and cannot risk becoming publicly visible until we can bring them onboard. One of the realities of older entrepreneurs is that we have greater responsibilities and constraints in life, often going beyond ourselves, to include family, kids, etc. In all cases I was careful to make this very clear and discuss the fact that there are two cofounders ready to go as soon as we get funded. And, in fact, in a couple of meetings I went as far as introducing them, talking about where they work, what they do and how they will contribute --without it being put down on paper or in any form that could be shared out of my control. Regarding single founder. Well, I founded and self-funded a company out of my garage and got it to the point where we got acquisition offers from a highly recognized, internationally known company for tens of millions of dollars. I understand precisely how difficult it is to be a single founder. I also understand how it is almost impossible for a 20-something fresh out of school to endure the sheer torture entrepreneurship can be. I get it. I also understand that saying "single founder" does not at all tell the full story, just like not everyone who studied physics can be Elon Musk.

I Hate VC's

16 points by robomartin 2y ago

fuzzfactor 2y ago

Just a guess but VC's probably only dislike you slightly, and that could change.

robomartin 2y ago
Not sure what you mean by that.
- fuzzfactor 2y ago
  Looks like you have been burned repeatedly by non-benvolent capitalists, and there is not much room for love which I completely understand. As well as your legitimate gripes, and I appreciate the details you have given. I do know exactly how you feel and have had to remind myself of this at times, potential relationships like this are naturally so lopsided that you are probably being cast aside like most anyone else, with no negative feelings from the capitalists aimed at you in particular. So keep your chin up, it's no reflection in any deficiencies you may have. Sorry for such a low-content comment to begin with, but nobody else had said anything so all I could do at the time was off-the-cuff and hope your submission would not drop off unrecognized. With no-one else to upvote other than the submission itself, looks like worthwhile submissions tend to sink faster than they should.

krak12 2y ago

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readyplayernull 2y ago

Cool list. This seems to be your stigma: Single founder discrimination Do like japanese do and get fake companions. I'd hire actors. If you are still around it means you have been successful, as in haven't been crushed yet. You still haven't suffered bad partners or vultures.

robomartin 2y ago
Here's the interesting part of this. I do have what I will call potential co-founders identified and ready to go on this. The reason I cannot present them or list them on applications, decks or documents is that they have jobs and cannot risk becoming publicly visible until we can bring them onboard. One of the realities of older entrepreneurs is that we have greater responsibilities and constraints in life, often going beyond ourselves, to include family, kids, etc. In all cases I was careful to make this very clear and discuss the fact that there are two cofounders ready to go as soon as we get funded. And, in fact, in a couple of meetings I went as far as introducing them, talking about where they work, what they do and how they will contribute --without it being put down on paper or in any form that could be shared out of my control. Regarding single founder. Well, I founded and self-funded a company out of my garage and got it to the point where we got acquisition offers from a highly recognized, internationally known company for tens of millions of dollars. I understand precisely how difficult it is to be a single founder. I also understand how it is almost impossible for a 20-something fresh out of school to endure the sheer torture entrepreneurship can be. I get it. I also understand that saying "single founder" does not at all tell the full story, just like not everyone who studied physics can be Elon Musk.