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US does all the nasty crap China does. Less brazenly, but it's certainly there. > imprisonment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp h

US does all the nasty crap China does. Less brazenly, but it's certainly there. > imprisonment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_cam... The Guantanamo Bay detention camp is a United States military prison...As of August 2024, at least 780 persons from 48 countries have been detained at the camp since its creation, of whom 740 had been transferred elsewhere, 9 died in custody, and 30 remain; only 16 detainees have ever been charged by the U.S. with criminal offenses. > seizure of assets https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_Unit... In the United States, civil forfeiture (also called civil asset forfeiture or civil judicial forfeiture)[1] is a process in which law enforcement officers take assets from people who are suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing...To get back the seized property, owners must prove it was not involved in criminal activity. > death https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_Un... > go after normal people unless they speak out actively against the government https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange

blackhawkC17 2y ago
There should be a word for when someone picks the most extreme situation to prove their point. Yes, the U.S., Europe, and all well-governed democracies aren't perfect, but they're much better than China in that regard. A litmus test: U.S. and European citizens are free to challenge their leaders, e.g., the recent glut of anti-establishment parties garnering more votes in the EU. Some of these guys are loons, yet they're free to challenge the status quo because that's part of democracy. Remind me where Xi Jinping and Putin's political opponents end up again? In jail or dead.

blackhawkC17 2y ago

There should be a word for when someone picks the most extreme situation to prove their point. Yes, the U.S., Europe, and all well-governed democracies aren't perfect, but they're much better than China in that regard. A litmus test: U.S. and European citizens are free to challenge their leaders, e.g., the recent glut of anti-establishment parties garnering more votes in the EU. Some of these guys are loons, yet they're free to challenge the status quo because that's part of democracy. Remind me where Xi Jinping and Putin's political opponents end up again? In jail or dead.