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was going to ask if any of the prefab vendors have pre-certification for their models. gov picking designs vs. setting standards firms can build to and pre-cert

was going to ask if any of the prefab vendors have pre-certification for their models. gov picking designs vs. setting standards firms can build to and pre-certify seems a bit soviet even for canada. I'd be surprised if there weren't a certification fast-track for pre-fab building firms.

jszymborski 2y ago
Not sure what the objection to the gov't picking designs, but this is the result of consultation with industry and are being designed by private firms. Lots of more details in this article [0]: > The government has selected two firms to deliver on the first version of low-rise designs: MGA | Michael Green Architecture, which will work on plans for British Columbia, and LGA Architectural Partners Ltd., which will cover designs for Alberta, the Prairies, Ontario, Quebec, the Atlantic, and the North. > Though, Fraser will also be launching an open submission process that is soliciting additional designs from industry members who may submit existing prefabricated housing builds. Companies who build modular, 3D printed, or panelized houses have until Nov. 8 to submit to be considered for inclusion in the first iteration of the catalogue. [0] https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/first-standardized-housing-designs-coming-in-december-but-won-t-be-permit-ready-until-early-2025-1.7071659?clipId=104070 https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/first-standardized-ho...
- cf100clunk 2y ago
  > Not sure what the objection to the gov't picking designs The ''seems a bit soviet even for canada'' line was a bit of a giveaway. Thanks for the link, giving a good understanding of the proposals.
- motohagiography 2y ago
  govt should set environmental engineering safety standards and then people can make their livings building things that meet them. a catalogue of designs that meet environmental standards is great. my concern was the govt was picking favoured designers to mandate their designs instead of people innovating on what other people want. it sounded like the gov was acting like some kind of national HOA, and I would be surprised if that were the actual case. that case would be creating another generation of le courbusier and brutalist housing estate atrocities, and presumably they've learned.
  - fhdsgbbcaA 2y ago
    The goal here is speed, a pre-approval of a specific template means you can attain high velocity in deployment. Even brutalist monsters keep people off the streets, which is where we are now.
    - motohagiography 2y ago
      not a crisis, and I have to respond because that whole narrative is BS. I've seen what this "speed" does with ontario greenbelt destruction and new sprawl approval. if it were honest growth, it would be condo towers in the outer burbs to increase their density to meet the need for nearby jobs, but those approved houses are just sprawl with cheap mortages where the few salaries and real estate profits exit the country in the form of remittances back home anyway. it's a massive wealth transfer out of the country in exchange for votes. the demand is policy driven and not organic to an economy producing demand for homes based on endogenous growth. it's a fake crisis that could end with the stroke of a pen.

jszymborski 2y ago

Not sure what the objection to the gov't picking designs, but this is the result of consultation with industry and are being designed by private firms. Lots of more details in this article [0]: > The government has selected two firms to deliver on the first version of low-rise designs: MGA | Michael Green Architecture, which will work on plans for British Columbia, and LGA Architectural Partners Ltd., which will cover designs for Alberta, the Prairies, Ontario, Quebec, the Atlantic, and the North. > Though, Fraser will also be launching an open submission process that is soliciting additional designs from industry members who may submit existing prefabricated housing builds. Companies who build modular, 3D printed, or panelized houses have until Nov. 8 to submit to be considered for inclusion in the first iteration of the catalogue. [0] https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/first-standardized-housing-designs-coming-in-december-but-won-t-be-permit-ready-until-early-2025-1.7071659?clipId=104070 https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/first-standardized-ho...

cf100clunk 2y ago
> Not sure what the objection to the gov't picking designs The ''seems a bit soviet even for canada'' line was a bit of a giveaway. Thanks for the link, giving a good understanding of the proposals.
motohagiography 2y ago
govt should set environmental engineering safety standards and then people can make their livings building things that meet them. a catalogue of designs that meet environmental standards is great. my concern was the govt was picking favoured designers to mandate their designs instead of people innovating on what other people want. it sounded like the gov was acting like some kind of national HOA, and I would be surprised if that were the actual case. that case would be creating another generation of le courbusier and brutalist housing estate atrocities, and presumably they've learned.
- fhdsgbbcaA 2y ago
  The goal here is speed, a pre-approval of a specific template means you can attain high velocity in deployment. Even brutalist monsters keep people off the streets, which is where we are now.
  - motohagiography 2y ago
    not a crisis, and I have to respond because that whole narrative is BS. I've seen what this "speed" does with ontario greenbelt destruction and new sprawl approval. if it were honest growth, it would be condo towers in the outer burbs to increase their density to meet the need for nearby jobs, but those approved houses are just sprawl with cheap mortages where the few salaries and real estate profits exit the country in the form of remittances back home anyway. it's a massive wealth transfer out of the country in exchange for votes. the demand is policy driven and not organic to an economy producing demand for homes based on endogenous growth. it's a fake crisis that could end with the stroke of a pen.