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Anything more to these allegations than there was last time? Or is this yet another chapter of someone's envy resorting to character assassination instead of f

Anything more to these allegations than there was last time? Or is this yet another chapter of someone's envy resorting to character assassination instead of finding contentment in their own work? If these people succeeded in their apparent goal of making RMS less popular, do they think the world will love them for it? Why aint they signing their name?

shadowgovt 2y ago
> If these people succeeded in their apparent goal of making RMS less popular, do they think the world will love them for it? Sometimes one does the right thing not because the world will love you, but because it is the right thing.
- asrt 2y ago
  Bullying an old man with cancer over off-colored jokes made half a century ago and opinions that he publicly retracted is "the right thing"? That's absurd.
  - shadowgovt 2y ago
    Does the old man still carry authority and a leadership position in a globally influential movement? Leaders are held accountable.
    - asrt 2y ago
      Which globally influential movement? Stallman's credit for the creation of the GNU operating system was stolen by Linus Torvalds, and most of the community even claims that GNU isn't an operating system, essentially deleting his biggest achievement and denying him any and all recognition. He created and championed Free Software, but that movement was replaced by the Open Source ideology, which is diametrically opposed to what he believed in. The FSF struggles to get new members and funding, while the Linux Foundation and open source projects flourish with billions of dollars from volunteers and corporations alike. GCC and Emacs are largely irrelevant today. Stallman himself gets no respect; he's mocked and harassed by open source advocates and corporations alike. He has expressed the isolation he is in during an interview: "I am the last survivor of a dead culture. And I don’t really belong in the world anymore. And in some ways, I feel like I ought to be dead." What Drew DeVault did with this hit piece is despicable. He wanted to shame and bully the FSF board into removing Stallman and resigning so his people can take over and push for his deranged idea of 'free software.'
      - shadowgovt 2y ago
        "Influential" doesn't mean "in control." See: the media deciding the definition of "hacker" over years of protests from people in the tech community. Stallman, his writing, and his org moved the needle on the way software was done; that doesn't imply they get to dictate how software is done. But nowadays, I question their capacity to move the needle.
JoeyBananas 2y ago
I'm convinced this is a COINTELPRO subversion campaign
drewdevault 2y ago
I've read most of the report and it's got a lot more than "last time". Speaking as someone who has done a lot of my own research on Stallman's bullshit, the depth of this report is astonishing. The allegations it makes regarding the conduct of the rest of the FSF is particularly alarming. I think you should at least skim it before you comment.
- daggn 2y ago
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- e844dbe8fb 2y ago
  Of course you've "read most of" it. You wrote it after all- or did you ask ChatGPT to write you an anti-free software screed and only read part of it before you posted it?
- _zagj 2y ago
  > I've read most of the report One would hope you'd read the entire thing, since you appear to have been behind it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41859793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41859793
- Managor 2y ago
  Drew please. What is your ultimate purpose in creating this smear piece?
  - TLLtchvL8KZ 2y ago
    He needs to do as much damage to Stallman while he still can. Stallman's recent health scares (as noted in the "stallman report") have most likely prompted this as Drew knows once RMS passes away he wont be able to get his revenge on the guy or have him removed from what has been his life's work. There are screenshots from Drews live streams which show his browser history/bookmarks which show links to 4ch board for cartoon drawings of lewd/nude children which make this all the more sickening. No wonder Drew loves his "research" so much.

shadowgovt 2y ago

> If these people succeeded in their apparent goal of making RMS less popular, do they think the world will love them for it? Sometimes one does the right thing not because the world will love you, but because it is the right thing.

asrt 2y ago
Bullying an old man with cancer over off-colored jokes made half a century ago and opinions that he publicly retracted is "the right thing"? That's absurd.
- shadowgovt 2y ago
  Does the old man still carry authority and a leadership position in a globally influential movement? Leaders are held accountable.
  - asrt 2y ago
    Which globally influential movement? Stallman's credit for the creation of the GNU operating system was stolen by Linus Torvalds, and most of the community even claims that GNU isn't an operating system, essentially deleting his biggest achievement and denying him any and all recognition. He created and championed Free Software, but that movement was replaced by the Open Source ideology, which is diametrically opposed to what he believed in. The FSF struggles to get new members and funding, while the Linux Foundation and open source projects flourish with billions of dollars from volunteers and corporations alike. GCC and Emacs are largely irrelevant today. Stallman himself gets no respect; he's mocked and harassed by open source advocates and corporations alike. He has expressed the isolation he is in during an interview: "I am the last survivor of a dead culture. And I don’t really belong in the world anymore. And in some ways, I feel like I ought to be dead." What Drew DeVault did with this hit piece is despicable. He wanted to shame and bully the FSF board into removing Stallman and resigning so his people can take over and push for his deranged idea of 'free software.'
    - shadowgovt 2y ago
      "Influential" doesn't mean "in control." See: the media deciding the definition of "hacker" over years of protests from people in the tech community. Stallman, his writing, and his org moved the needle on the way software was done; that doesn't imply they get to dictate how software is done. But nowadays, I question their capacity to move the needle.

JoeyBananas 2y ago

I'm convinced this is a COINTELPRO subversion campaign

drewdevault 2y ago

I've read most of the report and it's got a lot more than "last time". Speaking as someone who has done a lot of my own research on Stallman's bullshit, the depth of this report is astonishing. The allegations it makes regarding the conduct of the rest of the FSF is particularly alarming. I think you should at least skim it before you comment.

daggn 2y ago
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e844dbe8fb 2y ago
Of course you've "read most of" it. You wrote it after all- or did you ask ChatGPT to write you an anti-free software screed and only read part of it before you posted it?
_zagj 2y ago
> I've read most of the report One would hope you'd read the entire thing, since you appear to have been behind it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41859793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41859793
Managor 2y ago
Drew please. What is your ultimate purpose in creating this smear piece?
- TLLtchvL8KZ 2y ago
  He needs to do as much damage to Stallman while he still can. Stallman's recent health scares (as noted in the "stallman report") have most likely prompted this as Drew knows once RMS passes away he wont be able to get his revenge on the guy or have him removed from what has been his life's work. There are screenshots from Drews live streams which show his browser history/bookmarks which show links to 4ch board for cartoon drawings of lewd/nude children which make this all the more sickening. No wonder Drew loves his "research" so much.