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Is there adequate content in my short comment that substantiates the full model you've formed of my stance in your mind? Ironically, if you tune your TikTok fe

Is there adequate content in my short comment that substantiates the full model you've formed of my stance in your mind? Ironically, if you tune your TikTok feed carefully, it can offer plenty of great learning material on human psychology and cultural cognition, I highly recommend it. I also recommend the YouTube channel Asian Boss, I enjoy watching how frequently Asian people pause to think before answering questions posed to them, they seem unable to immediately know the correct answer like most westerners.

andrewflnr 2y ago
You quote "evidence is worse than" for emphasis, suggesting that you don't find that standard to be met by evidence that TikTok gives major inside access to an actively repressive and genocidal government. That suggests you think other social platforms are equal or worse, somehow, but you don't give any basis for that idea. Indeed your commentary consists entirely of snarky side tangents, rather than actual arguments. If you mean something other than the obvious interpretation, you best be explicit.
- mistermann 2y ago
  > Indeed your commentary consists entirely of snarky side tangents I informed you that you are describing a model. And asked you a question about it, which you did not answer. You are presenting your uncharitable take as representative of my stance, and then knocking it down with ease. Might the same be happening with China in discussions in Western media (mainstream, social, etc)? How could "worseness" of various platforms and these two countries even be calculated in a reasonably objective, unbiased manner? Is such a thing even possible?
  - andrewflnr 2y ago
    I explained the part of my model that actually exists quite explicitly. Perhaps you are making unwarranted assumptions about my assumptions? (Two can play the snarky pseudo-Socratic question game)
    - mistermann 2y ago
      Perhaps I am, and I would very much like to know what those are if you don't mind sharing. But for clarity: do you believe your performance here to be error free?
      - andrewflnr 2y ago
        Oh, you can make smug insinuations about how I'm misunderstanding you, but you expect me to be fully explicit. I've said all I'm going to.
        mistermann 2y ago
        Your dependence on rhetoric and presenting speculation as fact is unsurprising. If the mind is like muscles and needs exercise to become stronger, this culturally normal approach may not be to our long term advantage.
        andrewflnr 2y ago
        ...says the guy who refused to make an actual argument on the original topic.
        mistermann 2y ago
        Here you are correct. Making a counter-assertion of fact is not a requirement. In fact, making claims of fact when one lacks the expertise is generally a poor idea, though it is extremely popular. If you are so smart, why can you not answer simple questions about your facts? Possibly related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41840390 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41840390
        andrewflnr 2y ago
        I already tried answering your initial question about my reasoning, and you responded with meandering snark. Now you pretend I'm the unreasonable one for not treating any of your other "questions" seriously. If you wanted a real discussion, you could have said something of interest at that point, maybe made an actual claim about cultural influence or prioritizing problems in the social media landscape or somesuch, even just a hypothetical idea. But you've shown you don't actually want to exchange ideas, you just want to feel clever and righteous.

andrewflnr 2y ago

You quote "evidence is worse than" for emphasis, suggesting that you don't find that standard to be met by evidence that TikTok gives major inside access to an actively repressive and genocidal government. That suggests you think other social platforms are equal or worse, somehow, but you don't give any basis for that idea. Indeed your commentary consists entirely of snarky side tangents, rather than actual arguments. If you mean something other than the obvious interpretation, you best be explicit.

mistermann 2y ago
> Indeed your commentary consists entirely of snarky side tangents I informed you that you are describing a model. And asked you a question about it, which you did not answer. You are presenting your uncharitable take as representative of my stance, and then knocking it down with ease. Might the same be happening with China in discussions in Western media (mainstream, social, etc)? How could "worseness" of various platforms and these two countries even be calculated in a reasonably objective, unbiased manner? Is such a thing even possible?
- andrewflnr 2y ago
  I explained the part of my model that actually exists quite explicitly. Perhaps you are making unwarranted assumptions about my assumptions? (Two can play the snarky pseudo-Socratic question game)
  - mistermann 2y ago
    Perhaps I am, and I would very much like to know what those are if you don't mind sharing. But for clarity: do you believe your performance here to be error free?
    - andrewflnr 2y ago
      Oh, you can make smug insinuations about how I'm misunderstanding you, but you expect me to be fully explicit. I've said all I'm going to.
      - mistermann 2y ago
        Your dependence on rhetoric and presenting speculation as fact is unsurprising. If the mind is like muscles and needs exercise to become stronger, this culturally normal approach may not be to our long term advantage.
        andrewflnr 2y ago
        ...says the guy who refused to make an actual argument on the original topic.
        mistermann 2y ago
        Here you are correct. Making a counter-assertion of fact is not a requirement. In fact, making claims of fact when one lacks the expertise is generally a poor idea, though it is extremely popular. If you are so smart, why can you not answer simple questions about your facts? Possibly related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41840390 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41840390
        andrewflnr 2y ago
        I already tried answering your initial question about my reasoning, and you responded with meandering snark. Now you pretend I'm the unreasonable one for not treating any of your other "questions" seriously. If you wanted a real discussion, you could have said something of interest at that point, maybe made an actual claim about cultural influence or prioritizing problems in the social media landscape or somesuch, even just a hypothetical idea. But you've shown you don't actually want to exchange ideas, you just want to feel clever and righteous.