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To be in the top 1% you would likely need to depend on search on a daily basis for your livelihood. As a reminder the Starter plan is USD $5/month with 300 sear

by ipaddr 2y ago

To be in the top 1% you would likely need to depend on search on a daily basis for your livelihood. As a reminder the Starter plan is USD $5/month with 300 searches included. 99% of people search less than 10 times a day with loading the next page counting as a search. That's interesting and hard to accept but might be true with many living in apps and wall gardens like facebook. I wonder what the mode number is for those 99%. 1 or 2 searches a day.

ipaddr 2y ago
And Google is making 23 dollars on less than 300 searches which means Google makes 8c to 1 dollar per search.
supriyo-biswas 2y ago
I'd assume searches for the majority might be very "bursty", and while they may indeed spend most of their time in Facebook, Tiktok etc. when planning a vacation, searching for stuff to purchase or looking up recipes to try and the like, they'd issue a number of queries to narrow down into their area of interest which would blow past your estimate of 10 queries/day. There are also a fair number of queries that are just "Facebook", "<name of famous newspaper>" etc. which would also probably count towards some of the quota; it'd be great if some sort of caching could be implemented for these.
- xigoi 2y ago
  > There are also a fair number of queries that are just "Facebook", "<name of famous newspaper>" etc. which would also probably count towards some of the quota; it'd be great if some sort of caching could be implemented for these. There would be fewer of these queries if people had a financial incentive to learn to use bookmarks and the address bar.
johnnyanmac 2y ago
>99% of people search less than 10 times a day with loading the next page counting as a search. that's pretty crazy to hear. Especially since on this day alone, a weekend, I seem to have 20 unique searches. I can easily hit triple digits a day when researching for a project or on the job. Search is invaluable to me.
- devjab 2y ago
  What sort of job relies on internet searches? I’m not trying to be rude or anything like that at all, I’m genuinely curious.
  - daelon 2y ago
    Pro... gramming? I'm sorry, are you aware of what website you're on?
    - devjab 2y ago
      I’m a software developer, have been for two decades. I was suspecting it may be the case which is why I asked. Again, I’m not meaning to be rude or snide or anything, but what do you use search engines for? I almost never use them, I tend to head directly to the documentation when I need to look up the APIs for a library. This is mainly because “free” search engines suck at it these days, and I’m curious if Kagi doesn’t.
      - Mashimo 2y ago
        How do you find the documentation in the first place? ;-) I search for Errors / StackTraces that I get. For me stackoverflow / reddit / forum answers are often more helpful. Or examples on how to implement something, the documentation can sometimes be a bit lacking on how to set things together. Give me some working code that I can fiddle with. High level comparison between two frameworks / libs that I'm not familiar with.
        devjab 2y ago
        > How do you find the documentation in the first place? Typically I’ll go directly to the online documentation from one of my bookmarks. Sometimes I’ll have a local version. I did use to just type the thing I was looking for into the google search bar in Firefox, but once the results started being for ridiculous articles (or similar), rather than the actual documentation I started using bookmarks. Which was sort of why I was curious. > the documentation can sometimes be a bit lacking on how to set things together If you have the time I’d love to see an example of some random person on the internet giving you a better introduction into using a language library than the documentation itself. Don’t think I’ve ever seen that. That being said, I think we simply work on very different things. I’m not sure what searching for an error in my code would help me achieve that reading the error output wouldn’t. I suspect this is because you may be stringing together a lot of frameworks and possibly higher level external libraries, that you’re perhaps not too familiar with? Which would also explain why the documentation you have to work with isn’t always very good.
aniviacat 2y ago
I assume these numbers are heavily skewed by the amount of people doing 0 searches a day. Lots of people hardly use their webbrowser, spending almost all their time within apps. YouTube and TikTok have become popular search engines, partly for this reason. If you only count people for whom paying a monthly subscription for search wouldn't be completely ridiculous, I'd guess these numbers would skyrocket.

by ipaddr 2y ago

ipaddr 2y ago

And Google is making 23 dollars on less than 300 searches which means Google makes 8c to 1 dollar per search.

supriyo-biswas 2y ago

I'd assume searches for the majority might be very "bursty", and while they may indeed spend most of their time in Facebook, Tiktok etc. when planning a vacation, searching for stuff to purchase or looking up recipes to try and the like, they'd issue a number of queries to narrow down into their area of interest which would blow past your estimate of 10 queries/day. There are also a fair number of queries that are just "Facebook", "<name of famous newspaper>" etc. which would also probably count towards some of the quota; it'd be great if some sort of caching could be implemented for these.

xigoi 2y ago
> There are also a fair number of queries that are just "Facebook", "<name of famous newspaper>" etc. which would also probably count towards some of the quota; it'd be great if some sort of caching could be implemented for these. There would be fewer of these queries if people had a financial incentive to learn to use bookmarks and the address bar.

johnnyanmac 2y ago

>99% of people search less than 10 times a day with loading the next page counting as a search. that's pretty crazy to hear. Especially since on this day alone, a weekend, I seem to have 20 unique searches. I can easily hit triple digits a day when researching for a project or on the job. Search is invaluable to me.

devjab 2y ago
What sort of job relies on internet searches? I’m not trying to be rude or anything like that at all, I’m genuinely curious.
- daelon 2y ago
  Pro... gramming? I'm sorry, are you aware of what website you're on?
  - devjab 2y ago
    I’m a software developer, have been for two decades. I was suspecting it may be the case which is why I asked. Again, I’m not meaning to be rude or snide or anything, but what do you use search engines for? I almost never use them, I tend to head directly to the documentation when I need to look up the APIs for a library. This is mainly because “free” search engines suck at it these days, and I’m curious if Kagi doesn’t.
    - Mashimo 2y ago
      How do you find the documentation in the first place? ;-) I search for Errors / StackTraces that I get. For me stackoverflow / reddit / forum answers are often more helpful. Or examples on how to implement something, the documentation can sometimes be a bit lacking on how to set things together. Give me some working code that I can fiddle with. High level comparison between two frameworks / libs that I'm not familiar with.
      - devjab 2y ago
        > How do you find the documentation in the first place? Typically I’ll go directly to the online documentation from one of my bookmarks. Sometimes I’ll have a local version. I did use to just type the thing I was looking for into the google search bar in Firefox, but once the results started being for ridiculous articles (or similar), rather than the actual documentation I started using bookmarks. Which was sort of why I was curious. > the documentation can sometimes be a bit lacking on how to set things together If you have the time I’d love to see an example of some random person on the internet giving you a better introduction into using a language library than the documentation itself. Don’t think I’ve ever seen that. That being said, I think we simply work on very different things. I’m not sure what searching for an error in my code would help me achieve that reading the error output wouldn’t. I suspect this is because you may be stringing together a lot of frameworks and possibly higher level external libraries, that you’re perhaps not too familiar with? Which would also explain why the documentation you have to work with isn’t always very good.

aniviacat 2y ago

I assume these numbers are heavily skewed by the amount of people doing 0 searches a day. Lots of people hardly use their webbrowser, spending almost all their time within apps. YouTube and TikTok have become popular search engines, partly for this reason. If you only count people for whom paying a monthly subscription for search wouldn't be completely ridiculous, I'd guess these numbers would skyrocket.