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I know many, MANY people -- myself included -- who were impacted positively by college. I found my passions and improved myself tremendously. I'm not saying c

by jmduke 14y ago

I know many, MANY people -- myself included -- who were impacted positively by college. I found my passions and improved myself tremendously. I'm not saying college is some panacea, but you're an idiot if you think it "doesn't fucking matter in any way, shape, or form".

qntmfred 14y ago
Would you have found your passions and improved yourself anyways if you had not gone to college?
- jmduke 14y ago
  To my knowledge, no.
ggwicz 14y ago
How does the fact that it positively impacts some people mean that it matters or is important? This article is talking about money, employment, status, etc., in the context of education and college. I'm saying that going to college does not in any way mean that someone is more qualified, smarter, capable, productive, etc. than someone who didn't go to college. I'm saying that if you went to college and discovered, for example, a passion for graphic design, the idea that you'd inherently be better than a self-taught graphic designer is 100% ridiculous. And that if an employer chose you over that person solely because you had some extra letters after your name and could tolerate 4 more years of schooling, that employer is dangerously stupid.
- jmduke 14y ago
  What you said is "college doesn't fucking matter in any way, shape, or form in the context of reality and actually doing good, productive things". Which is completely incorrect. I understand if you think that a self-taught graphic designer is on par with a college-grad graphic designer, but that's not what you argued in the above quote.
  - ggwicz 14y ago
    It's exactly what I'm arguing above; college doesn't matter. By saying it "doesn't matter", I'm saying that the ability of a person to produce something good or provide a good service to others does not require a causative relationship with that person's level of organized education (college, grad school, high school, two-year degrees, etc.). You've said twice that I'm incorrect, without explaining why you think so.

by jmduke 14y ago

qntmfred 14y ago

Would you have found your passions and improved yourself anyways if you had not gone to college?

jmduke 14y ago
To my knowledge, no.

ggwicz 14y ago

How does the fact that it positively impacts some people mean that it matters or is important? This article is talking about money, employment, status, etc., in the context of education and college. I'm saying that going to college does not in any way mean that someone is more qualified, smarter, capable, productive, etc. than someone who didn't go to college. I'm saying that if you went to college and discovered, for example, a passion for graphic design, the idea that you'd inherently be better than a self-taught graphic designer is 100% ridiculous. And that if an employer chose you over that person solely because you had some extra letters after your name and could tolerate 4 more years of schooling, that employer is dangerously stupid.

jmduke 14y ago
What you said is "college doesn't fucking matter in any way, shape, or form in the context of reality and actually doing good, productive things". Which is completely incorrect. I understand if you think that a self-taught graphic designer is on par with a college-grad graphic designer, but that's not what you argued in the above quote.
- ggwicz 14y ago
  It's exactly what I'm arguing above; college doesn't matter. By saying it "doesn't matter", I'm saying that the ability of a person to produce something good or provide a good service to others does not require a causative relationship with that person's level of organized education (college, grad school, high school, two-year degrees, etc.). You've said twice that I'm incorrect, without explaining why you think so.