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Is any ad-fueled corporate social media any different? Talking about shit such as Twitter, FB, Instagram, etc. I mean, they all use underhanded tactics and psy

Is any ad-fueled corporate social media any different? Talking about shit such as Twitter, FB, Instagram, etc. I mean, they all use underhanded tactics and psychological tricks to keep you hooked and scrolling, TikTok is far from being a sole evil here.

highwayman47 2y ago
Agreed, TikTok is just the best at it; plus it is the only viable non-US threat to US tech giants, therefore it’s the villain.
- threeseed 2y ago
  TikTok isn't remotely a threat to any of the US tech giants. And the idea that Meta has never been considered a villain is just laughable.
  - juunpp 2y ago
    The US is in an economic war with China. TikTok is just part of their current beef. Not to say that TikTok isn't toxic; of course it is. But Instagram and Facebook are, too. "Considered a villain" -- this means nothing unless action is taken. Meta has just gotten, in two whole decades, a few mock interviews in Congress and not more than that, left untouched primarily due to Section 230 and the convenience that a mass social network of 2B+ users worldwide happens to be US-based (not fiscally, of course.) And that is after the various leaks showing how it psychologically manipulates teens, lends itself to electioneering and genocide, etc. TikTok, on the other hand, has made it all the way to Congressional ban level in just a few years.
jedimastert 2y ago
TikTok is, in my opinion, the distillate of the algorithmic attention approach. Everything even remotely community building or social is stripped away until there is just the feed. Just the algorithm.
- readyplayernull 2y ago
  Youtube ended copy-pasting their features.
- MichaelZuo 2y ago
  They do have somewhat higher credibility than Meta, or Facebook, in terms of statements by the leadership, but that is a very low bar to compare against.
coffeefirst 2y ago
You're right. Back in 2015 or so I could watch Twitter addicts' personalities and worldviews change in increasingly bizarre ways. It was weird. TikTok is the same, but distilled: faster, more emotionally charged, and optimized more aggressively. They are not unique, they're just winning right now.

highwayman47 2y ago

Agreed, TikTok is just the best at it; plus it is the only viable non-US threat to US tech giants, therefore it’s the villain.

threeseed 2y ago
TikTok isn't remotely a threat to any of the US tech giants. And the idea that Meta has never been considered a villain is just laughable.
- juunpp 2y ago
  The US is in an economic war with China. TikTok is just part of their current beef. Not to say that TikTok isn't toxic; of course it is. But Instagram and Facebook are, too. "Considered a villain" -- this means nothing unless action is taken. Meta has just gotten, in two whole decades, a few mock interviews in Congress and not more than that, left untouched primarily due to Section 230 and the convenience that a mass social network of 2B+ users worldwide happens to be US-based (not fiscally, of course.) And that is after the various leaks showing how it psychologically manipulates teens, lends itself to electioneering and genocide, etc. TikTok, on the other hand, has made it all the way to Congressional ban level in just a few years.

jedimastert 2y ago

TikTok is, in my opinion, the distillate of the algorithmic attention approach. Everything even remotely community building or social is stripped away until there is just the feed. Just the algorithm.

readyplayernull 2y ago
Youtube ended copy-pasting their features.
MichaelZuo 2y ago
They do have somewhat higher credibility than Meta, or Facebook, in terms of statements by the leadership, but that is a very low bar to compare against.

coffeefirst 2y ago

You're right. Back in 2015 or so I could watch Twitter addicts' personalities and worldviews change in increasingly bizarre ways. It was weird. TikTok is the same, but distilled: faster, more emotionally charged, and optimized more aggressively. They are not unique, they're just winning right now.