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College doesn't fucking matter in any way, shape, or form in the context of reality and actually doing good, productive things. Nor do people who base hires / w
by ggwicz 14y ago
College doesn't fucking matter in any way, shape, or form in the context of reality and actually doing good, productive things. Nor do people who base hires / who they like on where those people went to college.
- jmduke 14y agoI know many, MANY people -- myself included -- who were impacted positively by college. I found my passions and improved myself tremendously. I'm not saying college is some panacea, but you're an idiot if you think it "doesn't fucking matter in any way, shape, or form".
- qntmfred 14y agoWould you have found your passions and improved yourself anyways if you had not gone to college?
- jmduke 14y agoTo my knowledge, no.
- ggwicz 14y agoHow does the fact that it positively impacts some people mean that it matters or is important? This article is talking about money, employment, status, etc., in the context of education and college. I'm saying that going to college does not in any way mean that someone is more qualified, smarter, capable, productive, etc. than someone who didn't go to college. I'm saying that if you went to college and discovered, for example, a passion for graphic design, the idea that you'd inherently be better than a self-taught graphic designer is 100% ridiculous. And that if an employer chose you over that person solely because you had some extra letters after your name and could tolerate 4 more years of schooling, that employer is dangerously stupid.
- jmduke 14y agoWhat you said is "college doesn't fucking matter in any way, shape, or form in the context of reality and actually doing good, productive things". Which is completely incorrect. I understand if you think that a self-taught graphic designer is on par with a college-grad graphic designer, but that's not what you argued in the above quote.
- ggwicz 14y agoIt's exactly what I'm arguing above; college doesn't matter. By saying it "doesn't matter", I'm saying that the ability of a person to produce something good or provide a good service to others does not require a causative relationship with that person's level of organized education (college, grad school, high school, two-year degrees, etc.). You've said twice that I'm incorrect, without explaining why you think so.
- nanijoe 14y agoEach of the last 4 Presidents of the United States went to either Harvard or Yale at some point in their education. Do you really think this is pure coincidence? You should not allow where you went to college to hold you back, but it matters..A LOT.
- ggwicz 14y agoWhat does that have to do say about the value of college? And how, specifically, does that add to your statement "but it matters..A LOT"?
- tomx 14y agoWould you use a doctor who had not been to college? As you hopefully would not, therefore your argument has a flaw in it, you might like to enumerate the list of professions or activities you believe do not require college level education.
- ggwicz 14y agoI'd never use a doctor, they're not tools. But I'd absolutely seek the advice of doctors who never had formal education. In fact, based on hard evidence and history, I'd be more interested in what some outside-the-box professionals have to say about a given condition than to have someone recite a textbook paragraph to me that I could read for myself for free at the library. I can't think of one profession or activity that requires a college-level education in reality, though there are plenty that legally you need licenses, etc. for.