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Hmmm, so is WPengine actually contributing to WordPress? Everything I've seen seem to indicate very little development work. But maybe I'm misinformed. Also, t

Hmmm, so is WPengine actually contributing to WordPress? Everything I've seen seem to indicate very little development work. But maybe I'm misinformed. Also, the community (in terms of development) is basically automattic and... that's it. That's the whole problem! But again, I completely agree that the royalty request was extremely weird especially considering the supposed separation between WordPress.org & Automattic

ImPostingOnHN 2y ago
> Hmmm, so is WPengine actually contributing Yes, WPEngine is contributing to the wordpress community, but that's beside the point, since WPEngine's contributions to the community only came up when WPEngine refused matt's shakedown demand to transfer money into matt's pockets. Weirder still, matt banned WPEngine from contributing to the community on wordpressdotorg, then took some of WPEngine's community contributions and claimed them as their own. > Also, the community (in terms of development) is basically automattic and... that's it. It's interesting that you felt the need to qualify "community", limiting it to "in terms of development". The community is the sum total of all users of, and contributors to, the wordpress ecosystem. Matt has harmed millions of community members with his actions, and the community is telling him to knock it off, for the good of the community.
- mardifoufs 2y ago
  No, I think it's much more interesting that you keep focusing on the community part, as if paying some token amounts for marketing stuff (sponsoring conferences, events) is similar to pouring tons of engineering work into the product. It almost sounds like "paying in exposure".
  - ImPostingOnHN 2y ago
    I'd hardly consider ACF to be described as such, but: "paying some token that amounts for marketing stuff" according to whose descriptions of their community contributions?

ImPostingOnHN 2y ago

> Hmmm, so is WPengine actually contributing Yes, WPEngine is contributing to the wordpress community, but that's beside the point, since WPEngine's contributions to the community only came up when WPEngine refused matt's shakedown demand to transfer money into matt's pockets. Weirder still, matt banned WPEngine from contributing to the community on wordpressdotorg, then took some of WPEngine's community contributions and claimed them as their own. > Also, the community (in terms of development) is basically automattic and... that's it. It's interesting that you felt the need to qualify "community", limiting it to "in terms of development". The community is the sum total of all users of, and contributors to, the wordpress ecosystem. Matt has harmed millions of community members with his actions, and the community is telling him to knock it off, for the good of the community.

mardifoufs 2y ago
No, I think it's much more interesting that you keep focusing on the community part, as if paying some token amounts for marketing stuff (sponsoring conferences, events) is similar to pouring tons of engineering work into the product. It almost sounds like "paying in exposure".
- ImPostingOnHN 2y ago
  I'd hardly consider ACF to be described as such, but: "paying some token that amounts for marketing stuff" according to whose descriptions of their community contributions?