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Speaking as a non-American. SpaceX just made one of the most significant technological leaps in the last decade. This is obviously hugely significant in many wa

by jeswin 2y ago

Speaking as a non-American. SpaceX just made one of the most significant technological leaps in the last decade. This is obviously hugely significant in many ways, including retaining the US military edge. Yet the US administration hasn't congratulated SpaceX. Incredible.

stetrain 2y ago
https://x.com/SenBillNelson/status/1845461454977196294 https://x.com/SenBillNelson/status/1845461454977196294
abathur 2y ago
What counts? The current head NASA admin (a political appointee) did it a few hours ago and it's retweeted on the official @NASA account. (not linking as peer comment already did)
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dtquad 2y ago
There has been some kind of beef between Elon Musk and the Biden administration even before Musk's public right-wing turn. For example Biden has given speeches praising US EV vehicle manufacturers and not mentioning Tesla but mentioning all their competitors.
- stetrain 2y ago
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  - cruffle_duffle 2y ago
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    - stetrain 2y ago
      This was “actual facts” that came to light later? https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960?lang=en https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960?lang=en
  - jfoster 2y ago
    What did the post(s) say?
    - stetrain 2y ago
      https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960?lang=en https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960?lang=en https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/20/21187760/twitter-elon-musk-tweet-coronavirus-misinformation https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/20/21187760/twitter-elon-mus... https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/29/tech/elon-musk-twitter-coronavirus https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/29/tech/elon-musk-twitter-co... Lots of examples. And I’m not just talking about his general opinions on government response, but actual misinterpretations and misstatements of data that were straight-up wrong. It was also a clear breaking point between Elon and local and state government in California over how local restrictions were going to affect Tesla’s factory in Fremont.
      - jfoster 2y ago
        So the claims were: 1. That they will probably get to 0 cases. (he was wrong, but this prediction was made fairly early on when the data looked like this: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240767096104972289 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240767096104972289) 2. Kids essentially immune but elderly with existing conditions vulnerable, so family gatherings with close contact are risky. (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240758710646878208 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240758710646878208) ... seems correct? 3. He said "the coronavirus panic is dumb". (perhaps downplaying it too much, but in 2024 I think most people would say that the societal response such as not being allowed to go to a beach or park was absurd) 4. He wanted to keep factories open and for people to be allowed outside their homes. (similar to 3) 5. He posted: "Yes, reopen with care & appropriate protection, but don’t put everyone under de facto house arrest" (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1255386895145672705 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1255386895145672705) ... which also seems reasonable. 6. He had Tesla working on making ventilators but didn't think they would be needed in the end. (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240770010747830272 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240770010747830272) Did I miss anything or were his posts relatively uncontroversial with the benefit of hindsight? Personally, I was more concerned about covid than he was at the time, but I would say that his approach to it was more reasonable.
- ivewonyoung 2y ago
  Unions told Biden to ignore Tesla. https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/how-elon-musk-broke-with-biden-and-the-democrats-4960b7d8 https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/how-elon-musk-broke-w...
- smoovb 2y ago
  Yeah stuff like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ZmdIh1qpI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ZmdIh1qpI
jeffnappi 2y ago
It's unfortunate that Elon has made himself so visibly political, it casts a dark shadow on the great work of the people at his companies.
- throwaway69123 2y ago
  Hard to stay apolitical when the government excludes you from an EV summit and calls your competition the market leader, a bold face lie.

by jeswin 2y ago

stetrain 2y ago

https://x.com/SenBillNelson/status/1845461454977196294 https://x.com/SenBillNelson/status/1845461454977196294

abathur 2y ago

What counts? The current head NASA admin (a political appointee) did it a few hours ago and it's retweeted on the official @NASA account. (not linking as peer comment already did)

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dtquad 2y ago

There has been some kind of beef between Elon Musk and the Biden administration even before Musk's public right-wing turn. For example Biden has given speeches praising US EV vehicle manufacturers and not mentioning Tesla but mentioning all their competitors.

stetrain 2y ago
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- cruffle_duffle 2y ago
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  - stetrain 2y ago
    This was “actual facts” that came to light later? https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960?lang=en https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960?lang=en
- jfoster 2y ago
  What did the post(s) say?
  - stetrain 2y ago
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960?lang=en https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960?lang=en https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/20/21187760/twitter-elon-musk-tweet-coronavirus-misinformation https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/20/21187760/twitter-elon-mus... https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/29/tech/elon-musk-twitter-coronavirus https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/29/tech/elon-musk-twitter-co... Lots of examples. And I’m not just talking about his general opinions on government response, but actual misinterpretations and misstatements of data that were straight-up wrong. It was also a clear breaking point between Elon and local and state government in California over how local restrictions were going to affect Tesla’s factory in Fremont.
    - jfoster 2y ago
      So the claims were: 1. That they will probably get to 0 cases. (he was wrong, but this prediction was made fairly early on when the data looked like this: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240767096104972289 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240767096104972289) 2. Kids essentially immune but elderly with existing conditions vulnerable, so family gatherings with close contact are risky. (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240758710646878208 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240758710646878208) ... seems correct? 3. He said "the coronavirus panic is dumb". (perhaps downplaying it too much, but in 2024 I think most people would say that the societal response such as not being allowed to go to a beach or park was absurd) 4. He wanted to keep factories open and for people to be allowed outside their homes. (similar to 3) 5. He posted: "Yes, reopen with care & appropriate protection, but don’t put everyone under de facto house arrest" (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1255386895145672705 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1255386895145672705) ... which also seems reasonable. 6. He had Tesla working on making ventilators but didn't think they would be needed in the end. (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240770010747830272 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1240770010747830272) Did I miss anything or were his posts relatively uncontroversial with the benefit of hindsight? Personally, I was more concerned about covid than he was at the time, but I would say that his approach to it was more reasonable.
ivewonyoung 2y ago
Unions told Biden to ignore Tesla. https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/how-elon-musk-broke-with-biden-and-the-democrats-4960b7d8 https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/how-elon-musk-broke-w...
smoovb 2y ago
Yeah stuff like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ZmdIh1qpI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ZmdIh1qpI

jeffnappi 2y ago

It's unfortunate that Elon has made himself so visibly political, it casts a dark shadow on the great work of the people at his companies.

throwaway69123 2y ago
Hard to stay apolitical when the government excludes you from an EV summit and calls your competition the market leader, a bold face lie.