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that's the point: sometimes there is no tl;dr.

Lerc 2y ago
There are however a great deal of things people can do to make the same information available to a wider audience. Formatting, fonts, colours, structure of argument, visual aids. Clicking [reader view] on this article aided me immensely in being able to take it in. As one of the many ADHD people who encountered this, the white on black, wide page, and a serifed font were all non-informational aspects of the page that made it difficult to take in. You are wrong that sometimes there is no tl;dr In the absence of someone putting in the work to make content accessible the emphasis merely falls upon the dr of tl;dr. No-one requires you to make things for everyone, but you cannot expect to reach everyone without consideration of them either.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ or https://perfectmotherfuckingwebsite.com/ https://perfectmotherfuckingwebsite.com/ if you're feeling venturous. >You are wrong that sometimes there is no tl;dr In the absence of someone putting in the work to make content accessible the emphasis merely falls upon the dr of tl;dr. On a technical level I agree. >But how does one begin? It is not with grand declarations or bold, sweeping changes. That would miss the point entirely. Rather, it is with a gentle attention to the present, a deliberate shift in the way we move through the world. That's a pretty good TLDR right there. But on a cosmic level, I see nothing more ironic than asking for a TL;DR on how to take back your attention. Showing you have some interest in a topic but not enough to fully read it without shifting to yet another topic your brain runs you to. Thus failing the "gentle attention to the present".
  - hackernewds 2y ago
    those 2 websites were distracted eyesores. is this what people find helps attention
    - johnnyanmac 2y ago
      I suppose design is subjective, but these were more to demonstrate that there are simple ways to make a website read good, instead of "looking good". I'd figure readers of Hacker news's web page design would sympathize. These are no JS websites and I believe the first website is a total of 7 lines of CSS to help with margins. The second one's takeaway is to avoid pure whites and blacks (which from discussions is apparently a very controversial topic) and make a little use of typography

Lerc 2y ago

There are however a great deal of things people can do to make the same information available to a wider audience. Formatting, fonts, colours, structure of argument, visual aids. Clicking [reader view] on this article aided me immensely in being able to take it in. As one of the many ADHD people who encountered this, the white on black, wide page, and a serifed font were all non-informational aspects of the page that made it difficult to take in. You are wrong that sometimes there is no tl;dr In the absence of someone putting in the work to make content accessible the emphasis merely falls upon the dr of tl;dr. No-one requires you to make things for everyone, but you cannot expect to reach everyone without consideration of them either.

johnnyanmac 2y ago
http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ or https://perfectmotherfuckingwebsite.com/ https://perfectmotherfuckingwebsite.com/ if you're feeling venturous. >You are wrong that sometimes there is no tl;dr In the absence of someone putting in the work to make content accessible the emphasis merely falls upon the dr of tl;dr. On a technical level I agree. >But how does one begin? It is not with grand declarations or bold, sweeping changes. That would miss the point entirely. Rather, it is with a gentle attention to the present, a deliberate shift in the way we move through the world. That's a pretty good TLDR right there. But on a cosmic level, I see nothing more ironic than asking for a TL;DR on how to take back your attention. Showing you have some interest in a topic but not enough to fully read it without shifting to yet another topic your brain runs you to. Thus failing the "gentle attention to the present".
- hackernewds 2y ago
  those 2 websites were distracted eyesores. is this what people find helps attention
  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    I suppose design is subjective, but these were more to demonstrate that there are simple ways to make a website read good, instead of "looking good". I'd figure readers of Hacker news's web page design would sympathize. These are no JS websites and I believe the first website is a total of 7 lines of CSS to help with margins. The second one's takeaway is to avoid pure whites and blacks (which from discussions is apparently a very controversial topic) and make a little use of typography